After a court ruling from the 11th Circuit Court of Appeals allowed an anti-trans law in Florida targeting youth and adults go back into effect, many providers were forced to end care.
Do not be deceived, my friends. This will “go federal,” if the GOP wins. We MUST vote like our lives depend upon it, because it does. VOTE! VOTE!! Knock on doors. Make phone calls. Donate funds, if you can. And bring a friend to vote. I call this LGBTQ+ONE. You and one more voter. If we do this in every “swing state” (do the simple math), we will win the Electoral College AND keep the Senate.
They're trying to setup cases against Bostock the same way they did with Roe.
Otherwise all these lower court rulings would unanimously find that gender is equivalent to sex (same as Bostock) and therefore you can't discriminate based on transgender status
It's becoming increasingly clear that the law is whatever you want it to be. As a judge, your say goes, and if you're pretty sure that a higher court like the SCOTUS is similarly ideologically captured, what does it matter that your opinion holds up to even a little scrutiny? It's legally binding the moment you sign it. You could argue the sky was purple, because nowhere has said it had to be blue.
This is horrible, and I really feel for the affected patients in Florida. I hope they can secure adequate medication and/or make plans to leave the state. I also hope that this can be challenged in court.
As others have noted, this will go national if the GOP wins the elections in November. My only fervent hope is that highly protective blue states with strong protective laws on the books, might be able to hold out, and form sort of a bulwark against hostile federal policy.
Can anyone answer this for me: why are we not considered a "quasi suspect class"? As far as I can tell, a suspect class only needs to have an immutable trait that is historicaly discriminated against. Is the argument that our trans status is not immutable? Or are they focused on the idea of it violates "sex discrimination" laws? Why, if they're able to say it isn't sex discrimination because the original intended use of "sex" means assigned gender at birth, does it not count as discrimination based on transgender status instead?
I believe in the Tennessee ruling, the 6th Circuit Court ruled that that because the federal government was stepping in to protect them, trans people aren't discriminated against widely in the law lol...
"In Bostock v. Clayton County, Georgia, 590 U.S. 644 (2020) the Supreme Court held that Title VII prohibits discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation or gender identity because those forms of discrimination are tantamount to discrimination on the basis of sex."
They don't want gender to equate to sex for protection so conservative judges are ruling against the precedent so that it will eventually be pushed in front of SCOTUS like the Tennessee law that is going before the court next year. That will give SCOTUS multiple chances to potentially rule against Bostock or to narrowly define the Bostock ruling by carving out exceptions to when sex = gender.
It's the same game they played with Roe and every other regulation that the right doesn't believe in.
In The Netherlands, transpeople are basically protected by the first article of the Dutch constitution:
"All who reside in The Netherlands shall be treated equally in equal circumstances. Discrimination on the basis of religious beliefs, philosophy of life, political affiliation, race, sex, handicap, sexual preference or what other grounds might exist, is not allowed."
Transpeople have been trying to get sexual identity in there for the mere fact politicians are stepping on this first article as if it's non-existent for us.
Personally I think the idea transpeople are not a special category of people is because according to most of these people gender isn't real, and transpeople don't exist as a result.
It's why you hear the same kind of people do the "I can't be black now can I, because it's easy to proof that you can't do that?" type of thing.
I truly HATE this drip, drip, drip of devastating rulings and bad news.
But I *LOVE* that Erin is doing the work to keep all of us informed of these developments, no matter how depressing, as that visibility is VITAL for our response and very survival.
Genocide by attrition crossing a new threshold. Remember, nothing is a bigger middle finger to transphobes than staying alive. And leisure does not stop being a human need in the face of this threat. Hard as it can be, balance sounding the alarm with building your spirits up. Don't let the misery seep in and stop you from fighting the phobes.
Institutional sexism in all its ugliness is now a reality again in the United States. Courtesy of the Florida Republican, legislature, courts, and governor.
By the power of state government; republicans have taken equality back in time by 3 or 4 generations of progress in Florida. Other so called “red states” will follow their path. Truly “consent of the governed” is no more.
We are seeing a similar thing in The Netherlands. The end of 2023 saw disastrous elections and The Netherlands banked hard extreme and fascist-right.
(The number 1 party in the coalition is one holding scarily identical views when compared with the NSDAP of Adolf Hitler in the 1930's and 40's...)
Ever since all sexual minorities are being fought hard: the American-style brainrot of targeting progressive, comprehensive sexual education is in government plans as "Sexual education needs to be politically neutral and better suited to the age of the student, especially in primary school".
Which is obviously ultra-religious idiot language for "No sexual education at all" or "cis-gender, heteronormative education".
We now have 4 parties destined to walk the clock back, based on conspiracy theories and a misplaced nostalgia for a time that never existed, in which society was deemed "easy to understand" and "much more peaceful".
I am soooo lucky I have a DO as my provider and will not lose my meds yet as I am in Florida still. I have lost some healthcare coverage cause I would for a gov agency and some care is not covered :( I know this is not a good thing and if we lose in the fall, it will go bad. I am in a race to get my name legally changed so I can file with state of Florida DMV to change the sex before there is a ban on that too. Unless this pushes that also through. (Then new passport and I will be in Spain or France if Republican's win). Ugh.
It's hideous, the amount of harm Desantis and his goons in the legislature have been able to do in such a short span of time... I wonder how long it's going to take to unfuck that state, after his crusty pudding fingers are finally pried off of it?
Same is true in Texas, with both Abbott and his devil monkey AG, Paxton. I actually dispise Paxton more. That dude is evil.
We were all set to go to court to get my son's name and gender marker updated, and then got the news that NOPE! We'll go ahead with the name change before they make that illegal too. Crazy that his passport has the correct gender marker - and all it took to change it was checking a box!
It all comes down to Roberts next year. He sided with Gorsuch in Bostock along with the 3 liberal judges. Gorsuch recently tipped his hand that he will uphold that in a recent ruling siding in dissent with the liberal judges, but Roberts sided with the conservatives to put a temp hold on the Title IX updates.
If Roberts and Gorsuch hold the same views as Bostock going forward then they should strike down these types of laws. Sadly they might try and carve out exceptions to that ruling.
How gerrymandered are the districts in Florida? I'm just curious if this is yet another state that would in all likelihood be at least purple if gerrymandering were to end. I know North Carolina likely would be, and even Kentucky would be much closer if our districts weren't the ridiculous convoluted shapes they've been allowed to be twisted into. It feels extremely unfair that even when the majority of the population of a state is located in the cities, not only do barely populated areas get to send their favorite bigots to the state capitol the areas where minorities live are then split up with the full intention of making it impossible for them to get the representation they want. Then for the presidential elections the electoral college takes these tiny counties as seriously as large urban areas when assigning their votes. How is this at all actual democracy?
Dammit, I'm so angry right now I could puke. This brought tears to my eyes, because I've known all along they were gunning for all of us; not just trans youth. I'm so very tired of this. We must VOTE, because our lives depend on it. Just UGH
This is devastating news and you can best believe other states will follow-suit since they see Florida is getting away with this. SHIT
Do not be deceived, my friends. This will “go federal,” if the GOP wins. We MUST vote like our lives depend upon it, because it does. VOTE! VOTE!! Knock on doors. Make phone calls. Donate funds, if you can. And bring a friend to vote. I call this LGBTQ+ONE. You and one more voter. If we do this in every “swing state” (do the simple math), we will win the Electoral College AND keep the Senate.
I am rooting for you, you shall win!
This can also help I think:
https://www.notlosingyou.com/
Thanks for posting a link to that. The storyboard for the commercial made me tear up. I happily donated a few bucks in the hopes that it gets funded.
Thank you very much I also donated some bucks even from here, Europe.
They're trying to setup cases against Bostock the same way they did with Roe.
Otherwise all these lower court rulings would unanimously find that gender is equivalent to sex (same as Bostock) and therefore you can't discriminate based on transgender status
It's becoming increasingly clear that the law is whatever you want it to be. As a judge, your say goes, and if you're pretty sure that a higher court like the SCOTUS is similarly ideologically captured, what does it matter that your opinion holds up to even a little scrutiny? It's legally binding the moment you sign it. You could argue the sky was purple, because nowhere has said it had to be blue.
This is horrible, and I really feel for the affected patients in Florida. I hope they can secure adequate medication and/or make plans to leave the state. I also hope that this can be challenged in court.
As others have noted, this will go national if the GOP wins the elections in November. My only fervent hope is that highly protective blue states with strong protective laws on the books, might be able to hold out, and form sort of a bulwark against hostile federal policy.
Can anyone answer this for me: why are we not considered a "quasi suspect class"? As far as I can tell, a suspect class only needs to have an immutable trait that is historicaly discriminated against. Is the argument that our trans status is not immutable? Or are they focused on the idea of it violates "sex discrimination" laws? Why, if they're able to say it isn't sex discrimination because the original intended use of "sex" means assigned gender at birth, does it not count as discrimination based on transgender status instead?
I believe in the Tennessee ruling, the 6th Circuit Court ruled that that because the federal government was stepping in to protect them, trans people aren't discriminated against widely in the law lol...
Not to mention the 6th said that because SCOTUS hadn't ruled that it was one yet... so it isn't... even though that's not at all how that works.
"SCOTUS hasn't said I'm beating you with a hammer so you can't tell me to stop, or even that I'm doing it, or that doing it is wrong."
That's pretty much the 6th's argument.
Because they want to invalidate Bostock.
"In Bostock v. Clayton County, Georgia, 590 U.S. 644 (2020) the Supreme Court held that Title VII prohibits discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation or gender identity because those forms of discrimination are tantamount to discrimination on the basis of sex."
They don't want gender to equate to sex for protection so conservative judges are ruling against the precedent so that it will eventually be pushed in front of SCOTUS like the Tennessee law that is going before the court next year. That will give SCOTUS multiple chances to potentially rule against Bostock or to narrowly define the Bostock ruling by carving out exceptions to when sex = gender.
It's the same game they played with Roe and every other regulation that the right doesn't believe in.
In The Netherlands, transpeople are basically protected by the first article of the Dutch constitution:
"All who reside in The Netherlands shall be treated equally in equal circumstances. Discrimination on the basis of religious beliefs, philosophy of life, political affiliation, race, sex, handicap, sexual preference or what other grounds might exist, is not allowed."
Transpeople have been trying to get sexual identity in there for the mere fact politicians are stepping on this first article as if it's non-existent for us.
Personally I think the idea transpeople are not a special category of people is because according to most of these people gender isn't real, and transpeople don't exist as a result.
It's why you hear the same kind of people do the "I can't be black now can I, because it's easy to proof that you can't do that?" type of thing.
So… we aren’t going to be considered deserving of equal rights are we? Do they want Stonewall 2? Because this is how you get Stonewall 2.
Damn. Had an appointment in two weeks to get my hormones prescribed in Florida. Guess we're staying DIY 🤦♀️.
They should have made that asap as they should have known this could have happened at any time.
Any Floridians looking for good news: Folx learned from last time and set up a system that will allow them to prescribe HRT to adults even though they're primarily a remote service. They're not cheap but if you got no other option, it works. More about that here: https://support.folxhealth.com/hc/en-us/articles/15567373004187-Current-HRT-requirements-for-Florida-members
I truly HATE this drip, drip, drip of devastating rulings and bad news.
But I *LOVE* that Erin is doing the work to keep all of us informed of these developments, no matter how depressing, as that visibility is VITAL for our response and very survival.
Genocide by attrition crossing a new threshold. Remember, nothing is a bigger middle finger to transphobes than staying alive. And leisure does not stop being a human need in the face of this threat. Hard as it can be, balance sounding the alarm with building your spirits up. Don't let the misery seep in and stop you from fighting the phobes.
Institutional sexism in all its ugliness is now a reality again in the United States. Courtesy of the Florida Republican, legislature, courts, and governor.
By the power of state government; republicans have taken equality back in time by 3 or 4 generations of progress in Florida. Other so called “red states” will follow their path. Truly “consent of the governed” is no more.
Do not let America become Florida.
Vote Only Democrats November 2024
We are seeing a similar thing in The Netherlands. The end of 2023 saw disastrous elections and The Netherlands banked hard extreme and fascist-right.
(The number 1 party in the coalition is one holding scarily identical views when compared with the NSDAP of Adolf Hitler in the 1930's and 40's...)
Ever since all sexual minorities are being fought hard: the American-style brainrot of targeting progressive, comprehensive sexual education is in government plans as "Sexual education needs to be politically neutral and better suited to the age of the student, especially in primary school".
Which is obviously ultra-religious idiot language for "No sexual education at all" or "cis-gender, heteronormative education".
We now have 4 parties destined to walk the clock back, based on conspiracy theories and a misplaced nostalgia for a time that never existed, in which society was deemed "easy to understand" and "much more peaceful".
I am soooo lucky I have a DO as my provider and will not lose my meds yet as I am in Florida still. I have lost some healthcare coverage cause I would for a gov agency and some care is not covered :( I know this is not a good thing and if we lose in the fall, it will go bad. I am in a race to get my name legally changed so I can file with state of Florida DMV to change the sex before there is a ban on that too. Unless this pushes that also through. (Then new passport and I will be in Spain or France if Republican's win). Ugh.
It's hideous, the amount of harm Desantis and his goons in the legislature have been able to do in such a short span of time... I wonder how long it's going to take to unfuck that state, after his crusty pudding fingers are finally pried off of it?
Same is true in Texas, with both Abbott and his devil monkey AG, Paxton. I actually dispise Paxton more. That dude is evil.
We were all set to go to court to get my son's name and gender marker updated, and then got the news that NOPE! We'll go ahead with the name change before they make that illegal too. Crazy that his passport has the correct gender marker - and all it took to change it was checking a box!
I realize the better part of judgement is to see how things go with the SCOTUS in the fall.
The phrase, "new guards" nevertheless comes to mind.
It all comes down to Roberts next year. He sided with Gorsuch in Bostock along with the 3 liberal judges. Gorsuch recently tipped his hand that he will uphold that in a recent ruling siding in dissent with the liberal judges, but Roberts sided with the conservatives to put a temp hold on the Title IX updates.
If Roberts and Gorsuch hold the same views as Bostock going forward then they should strike down these types of laws. Sadly they might try and carve out exceptions to that ruling.
Gorsuch is a broken six-hour clock. He’s good on trans and indigenous issues. Otherwise, he’s a far-right asshole.
(I’ve never seen a six-hour clock either, but if it existed and didn’t work, it would look like Neil Gorsuch)
Agreed, but he might be our best hope to keep Roberts on the sane side and to stay consistent himself.
Barrett is another wild card at this point. A ruling favor of trans rights could be a surprise 6-3.
Again, I pledge to help anyone affected by these laws to obtain GAC in my state (PA).
How gerrymandered are the districts in Florida? I'm just curious if this is yet another state that would in all likelihood be at least purple if gerrymandering were to end. I know North Carolina likely would be, and even Kentucky would be much closer if our districts weren't the ridiculous convoluted shapes they've been allowed to be twisted into. It feels extremely unfair that even when the majority of the population of a state is located in the cities, not only do barely populated areas get to send their favorite bigots to the state capitol the areas where minorities live are then split up with the full intention of making it impossible for them to get the representation they want. Then for the presidential elections the electoral college takes these tiny counties as seriously as large urban areas when assigning their votes. How is this at all actual democracy?
Dammit, I'm so angry right now I could puke. This brought tears to my eyes, because I've known all along they were gunning for all of us; not just trans youth. I'm so very tired of this. We must VOTE, because our lives depend on it. Just UGH
This is devastating news and you can best believe other states will follow-suit since they see Florida is getting away with this. SHIT