The bill could have far ranging impacts in Tennessee and outside of the state, and could be broadly used to target health care professionals across state lines.
Yeah. They think being trans is a choice. They don't understand, trans people are born trans. When I was a kid (60s & 70s), there wasn't even a word except transvestite, or queen, and later shemale. We had major trouble even realizing our truth, much less understanding it or expressing it openly. After the advent of the birth of LGBT out of the AIDS epidemic and then the advent of the internet, it became easier to access information, find others like you. It became somewhat more socially acceptable. That's why so many are coming out now as children and being accepted as such by their parents. When I spoke of being a girl as a young child, I was discouraged. All of us who came out in adulthood know the internal agony in which that results. That's what these knotheads want to return to. We'll win out eventually, we are at the forefront of social evolution and have the impetus. But we're going to have to stick to our guns for ourselves and future generations. In the short term, it could be tough, but the truth will prevail.
I am just a mom of a transgender teen, not a member of the LGBTQ community so I would never have the audacity tell those directly affected by this law what to do. But I will tell you from my view as someone who went from advocate to protestor to parent begging legislators to plaintiff suing a state, non-violent resistance is a little less far on the horizon. We're not quite there yet but should it come to it, I will aid and abet. I will not follow an unjust law.
Wow, this is really a race to the bottom, isn’t it, as far as several of the reddest states vying to see how bad they can make their anti-trans legislation. I assume this will be challenged in court? This type of legislation highlights the importance of safe-refuge laws that, as Erin noted, now encompass roughly 15 states.
My God, this is incredibly hateful. I'm having a hard time wrapping my head around the fact they're trying to erase us at a very fast pace. I suppose HIPAA means nothing to those people, huh? This isn't just about laws in individual States. This is causing a crap load of people to openly hate us, because I've been hearing/seeing it out there, folks. I feel like a passing-white Black man who hears racists openly talking about their hatred towards Black people. Now I know how people really are when they don't know you're trans.
I knew they were gunning for this 2 years ago ... when Roe vs. Wade was overturned. Use the anti-abortion laws to attack trans people is something I saw right through. Control women's bodies and control ours, too. Now, as the snowball effect keeps getting bigger & bigger, there seems to be nothing to stop this.
We may see Nazi Germany for the first time in our lives, and because we're the smallest of the LGBTQ+ there isn't anything they won't do to attack the most vulnerable in this country. I'm speechless now, because there is no end in sight. Mainstream media won't talk with any of us, and they're letting those crazy people control our narrative. YIKES ... UGH!!!
First amendment says that gets nullified right out of the gate. Pure posturing on their part -- 'though no doubt if they ever get to enforce it they will.
I've been considering becoming a foster parent for adolescent age kids here in Kentucky because I know we badly need more people willing to open their homes and hearts to these kids. I also know that trans kids are more likely than others to be in need of decent (non-evangelical, non-judgemental, supportive and nurturing) adults. Laws like this are making the broken system even worse. My husband wants me to make sure we are aware of all the potential risks involved if we were to take a child and then get them the healthcare they need (be it for trans kids or any other kid I'm going to get them what they need to be their best selves) the fact that we might run the risk of losing our own child by trying to help another child is terrifying and heartbreaking.
As I expect is well-known (and as Erin notes), the accusation of "recruitment" is an old anti-homosexual smear with laws dating back to the 1800s. When I was growing up in the '50s, I heard the claim that gay men were always seeking to "recruit" innocent boys into their "perverted lifestyle" because they couldn't reproduce so it was the only way to keep the "lifestyle" going. Consider how transparently idiotic that sounds now as proof of some degree of progress.
I raise this because I want people to bear in mind that what is going on now is not a new phenomenon but a reprise of a standard playbook with a specific goal, one openly declared in a quote I swear I am going to cite over and over until referencing it becomes second nature to as many of us as possible::
"'Back to 1900' is a serviceable summation of the conservative goal." - George Will, in his syndicated column, January 9, 1995
Every time a right-winger says or proposes anything, you should envision the US in 1900, envision the state of rights, social status, and economic well-being of every marginalized person, of every black, every woman, every worker, every LGBTQ+ person, every immigrant, every everyone not among the favored elites, and remind yourself "That is what they want."
What do you think this would practically mean for safety of a family with a trans kid in the state of Tennessee? Yes the state overall has been very bad for it for a few years now, but I’m wondering what this specific bill does to the risk factor; maybe another way of putting it is, is this likely to only be used to target healthcare professionals, or could this be weaponized against affirming parents directly?
I'm not sure they have enough EQ (emotional quotient) to empathize with us to that extent. I think most of them truly believe it's just a lifestyle choice and we are only pretending to be another gender.
All the comments I have read point to the same boiling cause of concern, and the concern at the home front is becoming a panic mode expression every time these marble brains on the right (especially in Tennessee) find a new way to express their hatred of gender diversity.
Until I see some actual people arrested and charged for helping transgender minors, or actually facing charges in court, I’m keeping my powder dry and conserving my ammo.
I can’t imagine your average cop stopping a car with a trans child and their parents driving the child to an appointment with his or her Endo to get a prescription for their puberty blockers, and arresting them for violating any of these hate laws. Even Adam-12 might have a hard time writing up that kind of violation. So I hope that people calm down a lot and start challenging these laws on their actual face value, with a lawyer.
Personally, I have not yet heard of anyone facing jail time for any of these laws. They are being passed to make us feel fearful, but they lack the muscle to back them up.
It’s time for everyone to gather some good lawyers who can defend people against these hate laws and willfully violate them in large enough numbers to draw some national attention to them, and show everyone what they are…..hateful threats with little substance.
Saying this loud and clear. I will host one family at a time if needed in CA. If a TN parent wants to bring their trans kid to get life saving care here in CA, I will help harbor you, transport you and provide any material assistance within my means until you can get situated.
wow...this is egregious...as a therapist training other therapist's to support gender affirming care and a host parent of a 23 year old trans man I am just sickened by this
For families who are considering relocation due to these laws, two parents who were forced to move wrote this incredibly helpful relocation guide for LGBTQ+ families, highly recommend.
Yeah. They think being trans is a choice. They don't understand, trans people are born trans. When I was a kid (60s & 70s), there wasn't even a word except transvestite, or queen, and later shemale. We had major trouble even realizing our truth, much less understanding it or expressing it openly. After the advent of the birth of LGBT out of the AIDS epidemic and then the advent of the internet, it became easier to access information, find others like you. It became somewhat more socially acceptable. That's why so many are coming out now as children and being accepted as such by their parents. When I spoke of being a girl as a young child, I was discouraged. All of us who came out in adulthood know the internal agony in which that results. That's what these knotheads want to return to. We'll win out eventually, we are at the forefront of social evolution and have the impetus. But we're going to have to stick to our guns for ourselves and future generations. In the short term, it could be tough, but the truth will prevail.
I am just a mom of a transgender teen, not a member of the LGBTQ community so I would never have the audacity tell those directly affected by this law what to do. But I will tell you from my view as someone who went from advocate to protestor to parent begging legislators to plaintiff suing a state, non-violent resistance is a little less far on the horizon. We're not quite there yet but should it come to it, I will aid and abet. I will not follow an unjust law.
Wow, this is really a race to the bottom, isn’t it, as far as several of the reddest states vying to see how bad they can make their anti-trans legislation. I assume this will be challenged in court? This type of legislation highlights the importance of safe-refuge laws that, as Erin noted, now encompass roughly 15 states.
Nowhere will truly be safe until the Republican party is dead in the ground.
Deranged.
My God, this is incredibly hateful. I'm having a hard time wrapping my head around the fact they're trying to erase us at a very fast pace. I suppose HIPAA means nothing to those people, huh? This isn't just about laws in individual States. This is causing a crap load of people to openly hate us, because I've been hearing/seeing it out there, folks. I feel like a passing-white Black man who hears racists openly talking about their hatred towards Black people. Now I know how people really are when they don't know you're trans.
I knew they were gunning for this 2 years ago ... when Roe vs. Wade was overturned. Use the anti-abortion laws to attack trans people is something I saw right through. Control women's bodies and control ours, too. Now, as the snowball effect keeps getting bigger & bigger, there seems to be nothing to stop this.
We may see Nazi Germany for the first time in our lives, and because we're the smallest of the LGBTQ+ there isn't anything they won't do to attack the most vulnerable in this country. I'm speechless now, because there is no end in sight. Mainstream media won't talk with any of us, and they're letting those crazy people control our narrative. YIKES ... UGH!!!
Hello. Hope you got to see this. Germany made it easier for people to change their gender on public records. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-68801392
First amendment says that gets nullified right out of the gate. Pure posturing on their part -- 'though no doubt if they ever get to enforce it they will.
I've been considering becoming a foster parent for adolescent age kids here in Kentucky because I know we badly need more people willing to open their homes and hearts to these kids. I also know that trans kids are more likely than others to be in need of decent (non-evangelical, non-judgemental, supportive and nurturing) adults. Laws like this are making the broken system even worse. My husband wants me to make sure we are aware of all the potential risks involved if we were to take a child and then get them the healthcare they need (be it for trans kids or any other kid I'm going to get them what they need to be their best selves) the fact that we might run the risk of losing our own child by trying to help another child is terrifying and heartbreaking.
As I expect is well-known (and as Erin notes), the accusation of "recruitment" is an old anti-homosexual smear with laws dating back to the 1800s. When I was growing up in the '50s, I heard the claim that gay men were always seeking to "recruit" innocent boys into their "perverted lifestyle" because they couldn't reproduce so it was the only way to keep the "lifestyle" going. Consider how transparently idiotic that sounds now as proof of some degree of progress.
I raise this because I want people to bear in mind that what is going on now is not a new phenomenon but a reprise of a standard playbook with a specific goal, one openly declared in a quote I swear I am going to cite over and over until referencing it becomes second nature to as many of us as possible::
"'Back to 1900' is a serviceable summation of the conservative goal." - George Will, in his syndicated column, January 9, 1995
Every time a right-winger says or proposes anything, you should envision the US in 1900, envision the state of rights, social status, and economic well-being of every marginalized person, of every black, every woman, every worker, every LGBTQ+ person, every immigrant, every everyone not among the favored elites, and remind yourself "That is what they want."
They told us. We should listen.
What do you think this would practically mean for safety of a family with a trans kid in the state of Tennessee? Yes the state overall has been very bad for it for a few years now, but I’m wondering what this specific bill does to the risk factor; maybe another way of putting it is, is this likely to only be used to target healthcare professionals, or could this be weaponized against affirming parents directly?
I'm not sure they have enough EQ (emotional quotient) to empathize with us to that extent. I think most of them truly believe it's just a lifestyle choice and we are only pretending to be another gender.
All the comments I have read point to the same boiling cause of concern, and the concern at the home front is becoming a panic mode expression every time these marble brains on the right (especially in Tennessee) find a new way to express their hatred of gender diversity.
Until I see some actual people arrested and charged for helping transgender minors, or actually facing charges in court, I’m keeping my powder dry and conserving my ammo.
I can’t imagine your average cop stopping a car with a trans child and their parents driving the child to an appointment with his or her Endo to get a prescription for their puberty blockers, and arresting them for violating any of these hate laws. Even Adam-12 might have a hard time writing up that kind of violation. So I hope that people calm down a lot and start challenging these laws on their actual face value, with a lawyer.
Personally, I have not yet heard of anyone facing jail time for any of these laws. They are being passed to make us feel fearful, but they lack the muscle to back them up.
It’s time for everyone to gather some good lawyers who can defend people against these hate laws and willfully violate them in large enough numbers to draw some national attention to them, and show everyone what they are…..hateful threats with little substance.
Saying this loud and clear. I will host one family at a time if needed in CA. If a TN parent wants to bring their trans kid to get life saving care here in CA, I will help harbor you, transport you and provide any material assistance within my means until you can get situated.
TN can come arrest me. I don't care anymore.
wow...this is egregious...as a therapist training other therapist's to support gender affirming care and a host parent of a 23 year old trans man I am just sickened by this
For families who are considering relocation due to these laws, two parents who were forced to move wrote this incredibly helpful relocation guide for LGBTQ+ families, highly recommend.
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