SEGM members and associates were part of a secret advisory group for the Cass Review in England. Genspect and SEGM pushed anti-trans policies in the United States. Now, they are listed as hate groups.
It is exactly these right wing Christian hate groups that are making trans lives miserable all around the world and being added to the list of hate groups by the SPLC is often a badge of honor for these people. However they will NOT erase us even if they try to criminalize our very existence.
I'm glad it happened- finally- but 𝘥𝘢𝘮𝘯 do I wish SPLC had made this call before those fuckers got their hooks into 𝘨𝘰𝘷𝘦𝘳𝘯𝘮𝘦𝘯𝘵𝘴. It wouldn't have stopped the haters everywhere, but it might have stopped them 𝘴𝘰𝘮𝘦𝘸𝘩𝘦𝘳𝘦, or at least could have slowed them down a little. It's not as if it's ever been a mystery what those two organizations were created for; it really shouldn't have taken this long, and I'm afraid the label won't be anywhere near as effective in reaction as it would've been as prevention.
Follow the money trail and it all makes sense. I guess organizations like the Koch's can claim a deduction for donating to a "church" such as alliance defending Freedom which itself should have been taken to court by the IRS. What a perverse and ridiculous fantasy that these people engage in thinking that they are saving the world and doing "God's' work
This is why "Christian nationalism" is white supremacy-ism. They'd probably tell me that 0.00001% of non-whites are in their camp, or some stupid crap, but there's a precise comparison to be made between anti-Semitism and racism, and anti-trans laws, it all depends on "God" creating entire classes of people to blame them for being themselves, punishing them eternally in their imaginary "hell". It's not Christian, if it means deriving from "Christ". It might derive from cherry-picked crud in the Bible, but not Jesus of Nazareth, nor the real God. They're playing chess *against* true divinity, just as Satan himself does, he pretends he's Jesus, and his fellow white nationalists appropriate divinity just like that. It's beyond a culture war, it's a war for the soul of the country, whether we'll coexist with other parts of the world, it's the kind of dystopia garbage that *will* make them, one way or another, wish they'd learned something, before their antics got so violent that guns are suddenly in their faces. If they're lucky, the guns will be proverbial, merely contradicting their idiocy, and not taking them out in the streets. I will do my best to make it the former, but I'm so pissed off lately that I can't promise anything (but I'm pretty much saying that rhetorically, somehow it never quite reaches that point where I'd lose it altogether, but that is itself a divine miracle).
SPLC is performing a great service here. They've pegged these shadowy groups and made them and their hate mission more visible. I'm surprised to see Koch money involved. I guess I shouldn't be. It's scary the inroads these haters have made in the UK and here.
I’m not optimistic about this having much of an effect. For the most part, the SPLC is ignored by government agencies, legislatures and the medical establishment. Designation as a hate group is even a badge of honour for the right. Now that they’ve got their foot in the door rendering trans medicines contraband in one country for minors, it’s only a matter a matter of time before it’s nationally outlawed for every country across the entire West and whatever satellite states and coup regimes it controls.
And frankly, I don’t think it’s going to be long before trans presentation, even by dint of bodily form, is nationally outlawed in the USA and likely more like the West Virginia law tried to do, only everywhere instead of two and a half times the distance that sex offenders are required to remain from schools. There seems to be a three point plan that the theocrats have for outlawing us:
1. Declare the sight of us obscene
2. Declare our identities fraudulent
3. Outlaw our medicines as hard drugs and our surgeries as mutilation (the latter may be punished with psychiatric commitment, though point 1 clearly would imprison us immediately if we’d ever be released).
Ultimately, in my opinion, the theocrats are not only likely to win absolute power in this election cycle, they’re also going to mass imprison us all, and we’re very easy to hunt down. All of us who have ever changed our gender markers on any government record or government-issued ID’s are easily listed with a single database command, and healthcare records are almost certainly almost as easily searchable for any indications of anyone being trans. Likewise, internet activity can be scraped for indications that someone might be trans or might have undergone any sort of medical transition, and that even in a substantial proportion of fora that would usually be expected to be private. Gay sex might take catching people in stings or some other more intensive surveillance, and there are too many gay and bi people for plausible expansions of the prison system to handle. On the other hand, there are few enough of us for plausible expansions of the prison system to absorb, and we’re very, very easy to find.
My big request is for people with broader audiences to somehow convey this so that more of us might be forewarned enough to escape it when otherwise also able. Of course, there is something of an issue of persuading those with larger audiences to believe the worst-case scenario probable enough to warrant openly discussing it.
People don’t seem to remember that the Nazi’s came after us first too. And they had a solution to their resulting prison population, which I don’t think these people would hesitate to employ. My own birth state of Tennessee wants to disenfranchise us, women, minorities, and, well, anyone not generationally wealthy. Scary times, my friend. Scary times.
Whomever cursed us with, “May you live in interesting times,” needs to be found and bargained with.
If there really is a Hell, these people deserve a particularly agonizing corner of it.
It never ceases to amaze me how utterly unlike their Christ they are. I don’t know what church they went to as kids, but I was taught in Sunday School one cannot expect to be forgiven unless one is truly repentant. And they don’t seem to have a repentant bone in their bodies.
It is exactly these right wing Christian hate groups that are making trans lives miserable all around the world and being added to the list of hate groups by the SPLC is often a badge of honor for these people. However they will NOT erase us even if they try to criminalize our very existence.
The British media will more or less ignore this because they’re just as bad as SEGM and Cass 🙁
So are the senior editors at the NYT's!
I'm glad it happened- finally- but 𝘥𝘢𝘮𝘯 do I wish SPLC had made this call before those fuckers got their hooks into 𝘨𝘰𝘷𝘦𝘳𝘯𝘮𝘦𝘯𝘵𝘴. It wouldn't have stopped the haters everywhere, but it might have stopped them 𝘴𝘰𝘮𝘦𝘸𝘩𝘦𝘳𝘦, or at least could have slowed them down a little. It's not as if it's ever been a mystery what those two organizations were created for; it really shouldn't have taken this long, and I'm afraid the label won't be anywhere near as effective in reaction as it would've been as prevention.
Good. It’s about time!
Follow the money trail and it all makes sense. I guess organizations like the Koch's can claim a deduction for donating to a "church" such as alliance defending Freedom which itself should have been taken to court by the IRS. What a perverse and ridiculous fantasy that these people engage in thinking that they are saving the world and doing "God's' work
This is why "Christian nationalism" is white supremacy-ism. They'd probably tell me that 0.00001% of non-whites are in their camp, or some stupid crap, but there's a precise comparison to be made between anti-Semitism and racism, and anti-trans laws, it all depends on "God" creating entire classes of people to blame them for being themselves, punishing them eternally in their imaginary "hell". It's not Christian, if it means deriving from "Christ". It might derive from cherry-picked crud in the Bible, but not Jesus of Nazareth, nor the real God. They're playing chess *against* true divinity, just as Satan himself does, he pretends he's Jesus, and his fellow white nationalists appropriate divinity just like that. It's beyond a culture war, it's a war for the soul of the country, whether we'll coexist with other parts of the world, it's the kind of dystopia garbage that *will* make them, one way or another, wish they'd learned something, before their antics got so violent that guns are suddenly in their faces. If they're lucky, the guns will be proverbial, merely contradicting their idiocy, and not taking them out in the streets. I will do my best to make it the former, but I'm so pissed off lately that I can't promise anything (but I'm pretty much saying that rhetorically, somehow it never quite reaches that point where I'd lose it altogether, but that is itself a divine miracle).
SPLC is performing a great service here. They've pegged these shadowy groups and made them and their hate mission more visible. I'm surprised to see Koch money involved. I guess I shouldn't be. It's scary the inroads these haters have made in the UK and here.
bastards
I’m not optimistic about this having much of an effect. For the most part, the SPLC is ignored by government agencies, legislatures and the medical establishment. Designation as a hate group is even a badge of honour for the right. Now that they’ve got their foot in the door rendering trans medicines contraband in one country for minors, it’s only a matter a matter of time before it’s nationally outlawed for every country across the entire West and whatever satellite states and coup regimes it controls.
And frankly, I don’t think it’s going to be long before trans presentation, even by dint of bodily form, is nationally outlawed in the USA and likely more like the West Virginia law tried to do, only everywhere instead of two and a half times the distance that sex offenders are required to remain from schools. There seems to be a three point plan that the theocrats have for outlawing us:
1. Declare the sight of us obscene
2. Declare our identities fraudulent
3. Outlaw our medicines as hard drugs and our surgeries as mutilation (the latter may be punished with psychiatric commitment, though point 1 clearly would imprison us immediately if we’d ever be released).
Ultimately, in my opinion, the theocrats are not only likely to win absolute power in this election cycle, they’re also going to mass imprison us all, and we’re very easy to hunt down. All of us who have ever changed our gender markers on any government record or government-issued ID’s are easily listed with a single database command, and healthcare records are almost certainly almost as easily searchable for any indications of anyone being trans. Likewise, internet activity can be scraped for indications that someone might be trans or might have undergone any sort of medical transition, and that even in a substantial proportion of fora that would usually be expected to be private. Gay sex might take catching people in stings or some other more intensive surveillance, and there are too many gay and bi people for plausible expansions of the prison system to handle. On the other hand, there are few enough of us for plausible expansions of the prison system to absorb, and we’re very, very easy to find.
My big request is for people with broader audiences to somehow convey this so that more of us might be forewarned enough to escape it when otherwise also able. Of course, there is something of an issue of persuading those with larger audiences to believe the worst-case scenario probable enough to warrant openly discussing it.
People don’t seem to remember that the Nazi’s came after us first too. And they had a solution to their resulting prison population, which I don’t think these people would hesitate to employ. My own birth state of Tennessee wants to disenfranchise us, women, minorities, and, well, anyone not generationally wealthy. Scary times, my friend. Scary times.
Whomever cursed us with, “May you live in interesting times,” needs to be found and bargained with.
If there really is a Hell, these people deserve a particularly agonizing corner of it.
It never ceases to amaze me how utterly unlike their Christ they are. I don’t know what church they went to as kids, but I was taught in Sunday School one cannot expect to be forgiven unless one is truly repentant. And they don’t seem to have a repentant bone in their bodies.
Nope ... NONE!
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