I don't know anyone who's a runner- hell, I don't know any athletes, period- but I wish these folks all the best with their boycott. The way the most prestigious institutes of higher learning have turned to putty in the spray-tanned shitgibbon's tiny, splotchy hands is just infuriating. Their administrators should all be ashamed of themselves.
If they had let her run, she might have shown average ability, proving conclusively that trans woman athletes have no biological advantage over cis women. I bet.
Exclusion from any activity is really no different from employment discrimination, and a general slap in the face that, unfortunately, happens too often to trans individuals.
Indeed. 🙂 I quoted this just for the context. I have done a complete analysis of the races that Andraya Yearwood and Terry Miller participated in, comparing to the women who were challenging them in court (esp. Chelsea Mitchell), plus men in the same race categories. The point is not to say they aren't superb (women) athletes - of course they are - but to make it numerically clear that they aren't more than that. I have the same data for Lia Thomas and detractors; I just need to compile it in the same graphical way.
If you look at the comments on this post, you'll see that a transphobe (I prefer to call them "transmisiacs") responded with what was essentially a canned canard that showed she hadn't even tried to read it. (And then someone else, a frequent commenter on Erin's page, got really upset at my assertion that muscle mass isn't the only factor that matters. Sigh. I *really* need to get that book out!
They require trans women to be better than cis women, because their worldview is that the male sex is biologically superior. If they accept that it's mostly just down to some hormones -- that an AMAB with female hormones would be physically inferior to an AFAB with male hormones -- then there's nothing intrinsic that makes AMAB people better.
I agree with that. If HRT works, let it work. At worst, a person AMAB would have longer legs, on average, but that's not as huge a factor in running as people would casually think. It's basically proven that one on estrogen has no inherent advantage, and if they had previously been on puberty blockers as well, it's hard to conceive how they'd have the slightest advantage. This is anti-trans propaganda taking the form of discrimination, as was suggested. It's against human equality.
I happen to believe that trans women ARE better, but not in this way. I just think that they go through so much suffering just to be themselves as women, and therefore to be more admired and respected than cis women.
I was actually thinking the same thing as Mike. I'm thinking I must have missed your previous comments. It just felt kind of scorching to me. But that is the case of reading comments and having no body language or eye contact.
Princeton University’s decision to remove track star Sadie Schreiner from the Larry Ellis Invitational simply because she is transgender is not about fairness — it is about fear, political pressure, and capitulation.
This move sends a chilling message: that dedication, talent, and hard work can be erased when institutions decide controversy matters more than inclusion.
Athletics are supposed to reward performance and perseverance, not serve as a battleground for political agendas targeting an already marginalized community.
By excluding Sadie Schreiner, Princeton and the organizers of the Larry Ellis Invitational have chosen to bow to manufactured outrage rather than stand up for fairness, dignity, and equal opportunity.
It reflects a broader pattern of institutions bending to political pressure and media narratives instead of defending student-athletes who have earned their place through competition.
Universities should lead with courage and integrity — not abandon their own stated values the moment they become inconvenient.
Silence and compliance are not neutrality; they are participation.
Athletes deserve to compete.
Students deserve respect.
And discrimination, no matter how it is repackaged, should never be mistaken for fairness.
The Track meet should be boycotted by all athletes and the public
As usual, the young ones are leading the way with compassion and intelligence. I would love to see more people come out and respectfully protest this track meet on May 5. Indeed, Princeton's entire LGBTQAI+ community should come out in force that day.
Who do I have to thanks for this post - Erin or Max? Regardless, they both are awesome and do important work.
I don't know anyone who's a runner- hell, I don't know any athletes, period- but I wish these folks all the best with their boycott. The way the most prestigious institutes of higher learning have turned to putty in the spray-tanned shitgibbon's tiny, splotchy hands is just infuriating. Their administrators should all be ashamed of themselves.
If they had let her run, she might have shown average ability, proving conclusively that trans woman athletes have no biological advantage over cis women. I bet.
Exclusion from any activity is really no different from employment discrimination, and a general slap in the face that, unfortunately, happens too often to trans individuals.
Here is how she placed in January. In the 200 m Lions Invitational she actually placed 4th. Definitely destroying women's sports...
https://www.athletic.net/TrackAndField/meet/621749/results/f/1/60m
Definitely setting the athletic world on fire. But hopefully showing her cis compatriots how to win.
Indeed. 🙂 I quoted this just for the context. I have done a complete analysis of the races that Andraya Yearwood and Terry Miller participated in, comparing to the women who were challenging them in court (esp. Chelsea Mitchell), plus men in the same race categories. The point is not to say they aren't superb (women) athletes - of course they are - but to make it numerically clear that they aren't more than that. I have the same data for Lia Thomas and detractors; I just need to compile it in the same graphical way.
If you look at the comments on this post, you'll see that a transphobe (I prefer to call them "transmisiacs") responded with what was essentially a canned canard that showed she hadn't even tried to read it. (And then someone else, a frequent commenter on Erin's page, got really upset at my assertion that muscle mass isn't the only factor that matters. Sigh. I *really* need to get that book out!
https://jaynasheats.substack.com/p/transathlete-phobia-is-it-really
They require trans women to be better than cis women, because their worldview is that the male sex is biologically superior. If they accept that it's mostly just down to some hormones -- that an AMAB with female hormones would be physically inferior to an AFAB with male hormones -- then there's nothing intrinsic that makes AMAB people better.
I agree with that. If HRT works, let it work. At worst, a person AMAB would have longer legs, on average, but that's not as huge a factor in running as people would casually think. It's basically proven that one on estrogen has no inherent advantage, and if they had previously been on puberty blockers as well, it's hard to conceive how they'd have the slightest advantage. This is anti-trans propaganda taking the form of discrimination, as was suggested. It's against human equality.
I happen to believe that trans women ARE better, but not in this way. I just think that they go through so much suffering just to be themselves as women, and therefore to be more admired and respected than cis women.
Go Princeton!!! [the student body objecting to the bigotry]
Thank you, Erin and Max.
I was actually thinking the same thing as Mike. I'm thinking I must have missed your previous comments. It just felt kind of scorching to me. But that is the case of reading comments and having no body language or eye contact.
Are you saying that Princeton is correct for excluding Sadie Schreiner /
Referring to the student body, who evidently are not so much in agreement with that policy. You don't read other comments much, do you?
I DO I was not sure if you were agreeing with Princeton"s decision they way your statement left me confused
I have to mention, my prior comments here would have been a clear indicator . . .
sorry i miss understood your post - What i do not understand is why people get so upset when a question is posed
Mike I am far more bemused than upset. Pls sweat it not.
Princeton University’s decision to remove track star Sadie Schreiner from the Larry Ellis Invitational simply because she is transgender is not about fairness — it is about fear, political pressure, and capitulation.
This move sends a chilling message: that dedication, talent, and hard work can be erased when institutions decide controversy matters more than inclusion.
Athletics are supposed to reward performance and perseverance, not serve as a battleground for political agendas targeting an already marginalized community.
By excluding Sadie Schreiner, Princeton and the organizers of the Larry Ellis Invitational have chosen to bow to manufactured outrage rather than stand up for fairness, dignity, and equal opportunity.
It reflects a broader pattern of institutions bending to political pressure and media narratives instead of defending student-athletes who have earned their place through competition.
Universities should lead with courage and integrity — not abandon their own stated values the moment they become inconvenient.
Silence and compliance are not neutrality; they are participation.
Athletes deserve to compete.
Students deserve respect.
And discrimination, no matter how it is repackaged, should never be mistaken for fairness.
The Track meet should be boycotted by all athletes and the public
As usual, the young ones are leading the way with compassion and intelligence. I would love to see more people come out and respectfully protest this track meet on May 5. Indeed, Princeton's entire LGBTQAI+ community should come out in force that day.
Who do I have to thanks for this post - Erin or Max? Regardless, they both are awesome and do important work.