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Celeste's avatar

Glad to hear someone with her kind of profile saying something

Talia Perkins's avatar

TY, Baum.

I appreciate a report of cisgender athletes sticking their neck out for us.

"This has had dire consequences the last few times it was deployed against women’s athletes. From 1992 to 1999, cisgender women were forced into testing and found out, on the world stage, that they had intersex conditions they never knew about. The spectacle led to ostracization, disqualification, and at least one suicide before such testing was abolished."

I hope that last is not repeated !!! The IOC already knew how to ensure MtF athletes could compete in Women's categories without any remnant "masculine" advantage, and that was 2004 to 2018 inclusively -- require 2 contiguous years of effective HRT before competing in women's categories. This also makes it "fair" for cisgender women athletes who have an intersex condition of any sort raising their blood testosterone above cisgender typoical levels.

I do have to wonder, has the work been done to determine the standard deviation of T blood levels in Olympic level cisgender women athletes? How high should it have to be before a medical intervention is ruled to be required?

"“They sort of like, lost the battle on gay marriage,” Rapinoe said."

And no question of it, if they don't lose hard enough over transgender issues, they will next level all their political guns to reverse that loss.

Also, first !!!

Larry Erickson's avatar

"they will next level all their political guns to reverse that loss"

They already are. The "LGB without the T" folks who think they're safe are fools.

Talia Perkins's avatar

"The "LGB without the T" folks who think they're safe are fools."

They are. I do think that attacking us is distracting some of the SoCons efforts from that though . . .

Larry Erickson's avatar

True enough. But the reactionaries have already legitimized the notion "transgender = drag queen = sex" and it's not that far a reach to reprising "disgusting" descriptions of "disgusting" gay/lesbian sex of the sort I remember from not that many decades ago.

The LGB/noT crowd should remember that Martin Niemöller's poem is not just about Germany.

Sandra's avatar
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Female athletes, whether cis or trans, should refuse en masse to take these tests, out of fear of privacy violations, possible misuse of the genetic material, and the fact that it’s misogynistic, applying only to women and not men.

Erica Forman's avatar

Yeah, I was going to say this as well!

Jackie Batterson's avatar

So what if the majority of female athletes just basically said, you do this, we are not competing. So far everything the IOC does is taken as gospel. Maybe that “gospel “ needs to be see as fiction.

Kelly O’Brien's avatar

Thanks, Meg and Sue! You bring reality to bear on this ridiculous and relentless pursuit to villainize a very small number of harmless and decent people. It’s politico-religious distraction, but it works. That’s why they continue to do it. Your voices are greatly appreciated. 💕

Don Jackson's avatar

Great article -- thank you. “If you crack this door open, it gets blown open...." Absolutely right. And the targeting will not stop with women. Fuckers are coming for us all, one way or another. Thanks, SB.

Robyn P's avatar

Talking Politics with Mom discussed this in a way I thought might help us bridge folks. I had never heard of “nude parades”!!

https://youtu.be/45CwehqDkvY?si=_ksi_21esAKfTx-w

Alan's avatar

The reasons to boycott the Olympics keep stacking

Jamie LocPort (She/Her)'s avatar

First, I love these two, true icons!

Second, as a biologist, this (frankly deliberate) misunderstanding of basic genetics angers me to no end.

Third, I was shocked to learn this was already tried in the 90's; I am less shocked that it is being tried again despite its utter failure the first time.

Larry Erickson's avatar

"cram unscientific ideas about gender and sex into manmade, binary boundaries"

The parenthetical phrase "(the word was chosen deliberately)" should have been inserted right before the comma.

Okay, maybe it was just expected we'd do that on our own, but y'know, just in case....