I take so much joy in Republican passed amendments after ACA passage being why they can't ban trans healthcare.
Like they were misguided in their reasoning to originally pass the amendment, but they weren't actually bad amendments for the most part. Healthcare access should be protected. More so we should be fighting for universal healthcare.
And now I get to giggle every time one is used against them.
This had me howling with laughter all the way down I-80 this afternoon.
My state of Wyoming had the same thing happen to them when they tried an abortion ban a few years back. They already had a "healthcare freedom" constitutional amendment to f*** with Obamacare and it got thrown back in their faces by the judge when they tried to follow the MAGA's and institute a highly restrictive abortion ban.
I think they just passed a GAC ban as well, hopefully the Ohio case is cited as precedent when it gets challenged in court.
I know it may seem kinda callous to be laughing at this - I know its deadly serious for trans people across the country rn - but you gotta love the irony of the Republicans accidentally protecting healthcare freedom cause they hated the ACA so much. Thanks bunches, you old white bastards!
I love this ruling, but I worry. We live in a time when elements of the Trump Administration feel they can freely ignore the ruling of a federal judge about as bedrock a Constitutional issue as due process. And, much like all the "protections" for women's health that actually are attacks on them, I deeply fear that this ruling will be subjected to a typical "death by a thousand cuts" approach. Take the victory lap, by all means! It's a wonderful ruling. But don't for one instant think it settles this matter.
Trump and Republicans have done us one favor. They've shown a lot of people that the system only works when we work to make the system better.
Laws and judicial rulings are malleable by those in power. We have to work to keep honest and fair people in power.
Republicans worked for decades to stack SCOTUS in their favor to get a Roe ruling and many other rulings in their favor. They worked the grey areas of what is legally allowed to get what they wanted.
Lots of systems were based on a "gentleman's agreement" and even then, an illegal action is only illegal once a court says so and an enforcement mechanism is in place.
DAMN, I NEEDED THAT! :-D I especially enjoyed the takedown of that transphobic freak James Cantor. Oh, and the Ohio constitutional amendment - PRICELESS!
What I'm wondering is this: If they could invalidate the trans healthcare ban on the basis of the amendment, why couldn't they do the same for abortion? It seems the same arguments would apply.
Anyway, as the poem goes, "Oh frabjous day! Calloo! Callay!"
So, it looks to me like Ohio tried to pass an abortion ban and failed because the Ohio constitution has an amendment specifically about reproductive right.
I'm from Wisconsin, and damn, I wish we have Ohio's constitution! Fortunately we have a Democratic Governor so abortion bans and anti-trans bills aren't becoming laws, but if that power balance shifts in the future, our constitution doesn't have protections that are as explicit.
I think Ohio still has abortion restrictions, possibly that the constitutional amendment didn't cover - abortion after 20 weeks, for instance. I remember when Ohioans turned out in overwhelming numbers to pass the constitutional amendment. It was a good day! :-)
It just seems to me like this constitutional amendment banning restrictions on medical care and health insurance could be used to tear down the remaining restrictions, for instance if a woman suffers a late-term miscarriage. Anyway, I'm sure this has occurred to the ACLU already. (Fantastic organization! It's quite satisfying to contribute to them, because I see tangible results from them every day!)
What a wonderful decision.Erin, you and your team are doing a fabulous job of digging into this in a way mainstream media will not touch it. Hopefully, this language will have bearing in other states.
Hooray for Ohio! The same bill is being voted on in committee in NH tomorrow. I will run off copies of this and bring it to the hearing tomorrow. It's an executive session, so I can't testify. But I will talk to each of them on the way in. (Although the sponsors refuse to talk to me, or even look at me.)
I take so much joy in Republican passed amendments after ACA passage being why they can't ban trans healthcare.
Like they were misguided in their reasoning to originally pass the amendment, but they weren't actually bad amendments for the most part. Healthcare access should be protected. More so we should be fighting for universal healthcare.
And now I get to giggle every time one is used against them.
I do so love it when old Republican fuckery fucks over new Republican fuckery.
Yep! Icing on the cake. :)
Yeah, I enjoyed that too and agree on it's face that it was a good amendment even though the motivation was misguided.
These judges really laid it all out well and exposed this jackassery for what it is. I so wish this could be the last word on all of it.
This had me howling with laughter all the way down I-80 this afternoon.
My state of Wyoming had the same thing happen to them when they tried an abortion ban a few years back. They already had a "healthcare freedom" constitutional amendment to f*** with Obamacare and it got thrown back in their faces by the judge when they tried to follow the MAGA's and institute a highly restrictive abortion ban.
I think they just passed a GAC ban as well, hopefully the Ohio case is cited as precedent when it gets challenged in court.
I know it may seem kinda callous to be laughing at this - I know its deadly serious for trans people across the country rn - but you gotta love the irony of the Republicans accidentally protecting healthcare freedom cause they hated the ACA so much. Thanks bunches, you old white bastards!
I think laughing at the irony is the appropriate response. It's healthy and in no way diminishes the underlying seriousness.
Thank you! We all can use any good news these days!
I love this ruling, but I worry. We live in a time when elements of the Trump Administration feel they can freely ignore the ruling of a federal judge about as bedrock a Constitutional issue as due process. And, much like all the "protections" for women's health that actually are attacks on them, I deeply fear that this ruling will be subjected to a typical "death by a thousand cuts" approach. Take the victory lap, by all means! It's a wonderful ruling. But don't for one instant think it settles this matter.
Oh no. The fights far from over. But we gotta celebrate the little victories, to keep up morale and keep our troops in the long war.
Trump and Republicans have done us one favor. They've shown a lot of people that the system only works when we work to make the system better.
Laws and judicial rulings are malleable by those in power. We have to work to keep honest and fair people in power.
Republicans worked for decades to stack SCOTUS in their favor to get a Roe ruling and many other rulings in their favor. They worked the grey areas of what is legally allowed to get what they wanted.
Lots of systems were based on a "gentleman's agreement" and even then, an illegal action is only illegal once a court says so and an enforcement mechanism is in place.
DAMN, I NEEDED THAT! :-D I especially enjoyed the takedown of that transphobic freak James Cantor. Oh, and the Ohio constitutional amendment - PRICELESS!
What I'm wondering is this: If they could invalidate the trans healthcare ban on the basis of the amendment, why couldn't they do the same for abortion? It seems the same arguments would apply.
Anyway, as the poem goes, "Oh frabjous day! Calloo! Callay!"
That's a good question. Here's what I found -
Oct 2024 "Ohio Judge Permanently Strikes Down Six-Week Abortion Ban, Which Clearly Violates the Ohio Constitution’s Reproductive Freedom Amendment"
https://www.aclu.org/press-releases/ohio-judge-permanently-strikes-down-six-week-abortion-ban-which-clearly-violates-the-ohio-constitutions-reproductive-freedom-amendment
So, it looks to me like Ohio tried to pass an abortion ban and failed because the Ohio constitution has an amendment specifically about reproductive right.
I'm from Wisconsin, and damn, I wish we have Ohio's constitution! Fortunately we have a Democratic Governor so abortion bans and anti-trans bills aren't becoming laws, but if that power balance shifts in the future, our constitution doesn't have protections that are as explicit.
I think Ohio still has abortion restrictions, possibly that the constitutional amendment didn't cover - abortion after 20 weeks, for instance. I remember when Ohioans turned out in overwhelming numbers to pass the constitutional amendment. It was a good day! :-)
It just seems to me like this constitutional amendment banning restrictions on medical care and health insurance could be used to tear down the remaining restrictions, for instance if a woman suffers a late-term miscarriage. Anyway, I'm sure this has occurred to the ACLU already. (Fantastic organization! It's quite satisfying to contribute to them, because I see tangible results from them every day!)
Bam! Yes!
What we have here is the legislative equivalent of tripping over your own shoelaces.
And now they don't know whether to scratch their watch or wind their ass.
This is incredible and I can’t love it more. I hope that this can also stand as precedent for cases and other states.
Not quite precedent technically speaking but rulings from other states can be considered "persuasive authority" so it does help.
True! An important clarification. Thank you.
Yay, some good news!
Winning.
Wow my home state that I’ve been too scared to move back to! I’m impressed and shocked.
What a wonderful decision.Erin, you and your team are doing a fabulous job of digging into this in a way mainstream media will not touch it. Hopefully, this language will have bearing in other states.
Hooray for Ohio! The same bill is being voted on in committee in NH tomorrow. I will run off copies of this and bring it to the hearing tomorrow. It's an executive session, so I can't testify. But I will talk to each of them on the way in. (Although the sponsors refuse to talk to me, or even look at me.)
Best wishes to you in the hearing tomorrow! Thanks for your advocacy!
Good luck!
As an Ohio resident I'm so glad to hear this!
F*** YEA!
Finally, a whiff of sanity.