The bathroom ban targets transgender people in colleges. It also contains a private right of action that some have said would allow cisgender people to sue over trans bathroom usage.
Well damn, If you're going to paint a target on us, why limit it to law suits? Be honest, missicisies, what you really want is a legal privilege to kill on sight anyone who appears gender non-conformant.
Well, I'm not gender non-conforming as a class, and I'm quite sure both of my parents think I'm conforming to the gender I know myself to be by now. It's none of their fucking business. That's exactly the kind of thing they're opening up around the country and hoping others jump on that bandwagon. My folks are turning over in their graves.
Fine. We'll pee outside the door. This is so ridiculous. We should just do what they want. All the trans men can invade the ladies rooms, and the trans women can go in the mens rooms. Give it a week of that and they will change it back.
There's something going on here that you're not accounting for. They're trying to draw people into a fight like that so they can identify you as TRANS and stamp that all over your ID somehow. Not to mention have a rounding-up point to abuse a bunch of us at the same time. Don't fall for the okie-doke. With mafia thugs like that, you need to be watching what their other hand is doing.
Hell no, but people aren't listening to reason these days. Whatever happens needs the backing of some powerful allies (who haven't identified themselves yet). We need a revolution and not some silly local thing that can get people killed. I made my suggestion last year, but people would rather hide than start the revolution under our own steam of power. Unfortunately, people don't want to work together for petty reasons, so we're at an impasse to do nothing but watch this steam-roller activity.
“We can always tell”, say the anti-trans zealots. But it’s a fool’s game. What happens when a cis person with an atypical gender presentation gets ensnared by this??
The person who sued will likely lose or have the suit dismissed.
The legislators who passed this won't care. They hate people who perform gender the "wrong" way almost as much as they hate trans people. Even if it's not your fault you get mistaken (tall cis women being taken for men, for example), they still see it as you not trying hard enough to conform to their little box of what's "appropriate".
I mostly agree, but the one thing I’d add is that from the standpoint of the victimized cis or trans person, it doesn’t matter a whole lot if the suit is eventually dismissed - the emotional damage is done regardless. That’s why, in my opinion, anti-trans legislation huts ALL women, and cis AFAB females should be fighting against them every bit as much as trans people do.
It's really pathetic that the use of a bathroom would be this kind of issue. They would have people use the one that doesn't really match and opens the door to a lot of problems. I will never tolerate punitive laws that serve a discriminatory, hateful agenda.
It's worse than pathetic. It's pure evil coming out of these GOP clowns. Specifically driven by a bunch of religious zealots who want to collapse the separation between Church & State. WHOMP, HERE IT IS!!!!!!
White people, in general, are in denial of White Supremacy too. That's not remarkable, either. Perhaps there's a certain allure in denying anything you don't want to do anything about, eh? Let the henchmen do all the dirty work, while sitting there clutching pearls and saying 'you' had nothing to do with it.
I think I'm getting old, because I miss the good ole' days of in-your-face journalism and reporting. Times were tough, but nobody was trying to fool anybody about it.
A standard to who and for what? Even when I was young, I was encouraged to think for myself and choose my own standards. They must've seen something in me, because mama stopped trying to force religion onto me. I got to choose. Still looks deceiving and like evil in disguise to me. I believe in my own way, but not religious dogma. That is the enemy for a whole bunch of reasons ... related to me being Black as well as trans. 'Man' is crazy and that includes women & others.
People pick and choose what their religion says, what doesn't apply to them, and makes it work for their sick minds and not what it's intended to do. Never was supposed to control people the way humans use it.
Okay, well add Mississippi to the "kiss the darkest part of my fuzzy black ass" States. They can all go to hell, silently deputizing people to pohleece us in a way that legal authorities can't. Saw this coming, too. What a shit-hole place this will be to live in if we don't get a handle on these people. Nazi Playbook, step-by-step. 1 step forward, 5 steps back all over the place.
They know exactly what they're doing and how to run these fly-by-night thug operations. What a nightmare. I have no plans to do more than pass through that place. Glad I don't know anybody to visit out there. So, I'll just watch the shitty little piss-poor State from the sky. Pfffffffffffff...
Is it just me, or is the GQP's willingness to suspend the rules of the legislature to force this bill through even more chilling than the bill itself? South Carolina ignoring the ruling from the Fourth Circuit, states making up their own trans-exclusive version of Title IX... this has become a clear pattern of behavior at the state level, and anyone who thinks they won't use the Constitution for toilet paper too, if they're allowed to take this shit Federal, is 𝘣𝘦𝘺𝘰𝘯𝘥 naive.
I noted that too. It's been done in recent years where"emergency sessions" were held in the middle of the night in some states to pass the really heinous laws. If only real issues like schools, roads and taxes commanded as much commitment from hateful, bigoted legislators.
Trans women make up less than 1% of the population. Many of us pass under a casual glance, and some of us even pass up close. The number of obviously trans women using the women's room on Mississippi public school campuses is probably very near zero.
Now consider all the tall girls, big girls, student athletes, butch lesbians, butch straight women, gender-nonconforming women, and all the other cis women who don't fit the patriarchal ideal of femininity. My (cis woman) partner gets misgenered *all the time* just for having short hair.
To one degree or another, all these (cis) women likely to be subjected to the same complaints and harassment trans women get, in numbers vastly exceeding complaints about trans women. Anyone who thought about that for even a second could see that coming.
They're selling this as protecting the honor of delicate white girls (remember, this is a state that had separate bathrooms for Black people within living memory). But it's really about ginning up outrage and hate, not just for us as trans people, but for anyone who doesn't fit into the white Christian patriarchy.
A lot of states have recently passed anti-trans laws of various different descriptions. we stay up to date on the laws that are being passed but what's really missing is news of those if anyone who have been arrested, prosecuted, jailed or fined as a result of these new laws and if these laws are being challenged.
It’s the exact opposite where I am in Massachusetts and has been for years. Yet, there’s been no issue. Hmmmmm 🤔😑
You’re damn right.
I have no doubt that Mississippi will do everything in its power to make sure that trans people will be persecuted. This is shameful.
Mississippi is disgraceful
Well damn, If you're going to paint a target on us, why limit it to law suits? Be honest, missicisies, what you really want is a legal privilege to kill on sight anyone who appears gender non-conformant.
Well, I'm not gender non-conforming as a class, and I'm quite sure both of my parents think I'm conforming to the gender I know myself to be by now. It's none of their fucking business. That's exactly the kind of thing they're opening up around the country and hoping others jump on that bandwagon. My folks are turning over in their graves.
Fine. We'll pee outside the door. This is so ridiculous. We should just do what they want. All the trans men can invade the ladies rooms, and the trans women can go in the mens rooms. Give it a week of that and they will change it back.
There's something going on here that you're not accounting for. They're trying to draw people into a fight like that so they can identify you as TRANS and stamp that all over your ID somehow. Not to mention have a rounding-up point to abuse a bunch of us at the same time. Don't fall for the okie-doke. With mafia thugs like that, you need to be watching what their other hand is doing.
Then what do you suggest, we just go along with it until they start carting us off to camps?
Hell no, but people aren't listening to reason these days. Whatever happens needs the backing of some powerful allies (who haven't identified themselves yet). We need a revolution and not some silly local thing that can get people killed. I made my suggestion last year, but people would rather hide than start the revolution under our own steam of power. Unfortunately, people don't want to work together for petty reasons, so we're at an impasse to do nothing but watch this steam-roller activity.
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“We can always tell”, say the anti-trans zealots. But it’s a fool’s game. What happens when a cis person with an atypical gender presentation gets ensnared by this??
The person who sued will likely lose or have the suit dismissed.
The legislators who passed this won't care. They hate people who perform gender the "wrong" way almost as much as they hate trans people. Even if it's not your fault you get mistaken (tall cis women being taken for men, for example), they still see it as you not trying hard enough to conform to their little box of what's "appropriate".
I mostly agree, but the one thing I’d add is that from the standpoint of the victimized cis or trans person, it doesn’t matter a whole lot if the suit is eventually dismissed - the emotional damage is done regardless. That’s why, in my opinion, anti-trans legislation huts ALL women, and cis AFAB females should be fighting against them every bit as much as trans people do.
Oh for sure. I definitely did not mean to imply that a person targeted by this is unharmed just because the suit is dismissed.
I would counter-sue and win!
They'll be fine with that. The kind of people who hate trans people also hate cis people who don't fit into stereotypical gender norms.
In the words of Nina Simone, "Mississippi Goddam"
It's really pathetic that the use of a bathroom would be this kind of issue. They would have people use the one that doesn't really match and opens the door to a lot of problems. I will never tolerate punitive laws that serve a discriminatory, hateful agenda.
It's worse than pathetic. It's pure evil coming out of these GOP clowns. Specifically driven by a bunch of religious zealots who want to collapse the separation between Church & State. WHOMP, HERE IT IS!!!!!!
The Christian nationalist types are remarkably in denial.
Come on, Joel. That's remarkable to you? LOL
White people, in general, are in denial of White Supremacy too. That's not remarkable, either. Perhaps there's a certain allure in denying anything you don't want to do anything about, eh? Let the henchmen do all the dirty work, while sitting there clutching pearls and saying 'you' had nothing to do with it.
I think I'm getting old, because I miss the good ole' days of in-your-face journalism and reporting. Times were tough, but nobody was trying to fool anybody about it.
It's remarkable that, proven wrong, religious ideology could be seen as a viable standard, in this day and age.
A standard to who and for what? Even when I was young, I was encouraged to think for myself and choose my own standards. They must've seen something in me, because mama stopped trying to force religion onto me. I got to choose. Still looks deceiving and like evil in disguise to me. I believe in my own way, but not religious dogma. That is the enemy for a whole bunch of reasons ... related to me being Black as well as trans. 'Man' is crazy and that includes women & others.
People pick and choose what their religion says, what doesn't apply to them, and makes it work for their sick minds and not what it's intended to do. Never was supposed to control people the way humans use it.
Christian nationalism pretends that their ways are enshrined in something divine, even as real divinity contradicts them at every turn.
Okay, well add Mississippi to the "kiss the darkest part of my fuzzy black ass" States. They can all go to hell, silently deputizing people to pohleece us in a way that legal authorities can't. Saw this coming, too. What a shit-hole place this will be to live in if we don't get a handle on these people. Nazi Playbook, step-by-step. 1 step forward, 5 steps back all over the place.
They know exactly what they're doing and how to run these fly-by-night thug operations. What a nightmare. I have no plans to do more than pass through that place. Glad I don't know anybody to visit out there. So, I'll just watch the shitty little piss-poor State from the sky. Pfffffffffffff...
Is it just me, or is the GQP's willingness to suspend the rules of the legislature to force this bill through even more chilling than the bill itself? South Carolina ignoring the ruling from the Fourth Circuit, states making up their own trans-exclusive version of Title IX... this has become a clear pattern of behavior at the state level, and anyone who thinks they won't use the Constitution for toilet paper too, if they're allowed to take this shit Federal, is 𝘣𝘦𝘺𝘰𝘯𝘥 naive.
I noted that too. It's been done in recent years where"emergency sessions" were held in the middle of the night in some states to pass the really heinous laws. If only real issues like schools, roads and taxes commanded as much commitment from hateful, bigoted legislators.
Trans women make up less than 1% of the population. Many of us pass under a casual glance, and some of us even pass up close. The number of obviously trans women using the women's room on Mississippi public school campuses is probably very near zero.
Now consider all the tall girls, big girls, student athletes, butch lesbians, butch straight women, gender-nonconforming women, and all the other cis women who don't fit the patriarchal ideal of femininity. My (cis woman) partner gets misgenered *all the time* just for having short hair.
To one degree or another, all these (cis) women likely to be subjected to the same complaints and harassment trans women get, in numbers vastly exceeding complaints about trans women. Anyone who thought about that for even a second could see that coming.
They're selling this as protecting the honor of delicate white girls (remember, this is a state that had separate bathrooms for Black people within living memory). But it's really about ginning up outrage and hate, not just for us as trans people, but for anyone who doesn't fit into the white Christian patriarchy.
Time to start suing republican legislators for using the incorrect bathroom. After all, we can't tell who's trans or not.
A lot of states have recently passed anti-trans laws of various different descriptions. we stay up to date on the laws that are being passed but what's really missing is news of those if anyone who have been arrested, prosecuted, jailed or fined as a result of these new laws and if these laws are being challenged.
Wow that is evil.
This is so stupid. Thanks for your excellent reporting, Erin.
Thanks for being there, Erin! Happy Spring!