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Lenora's avatar

Oof. Guess it’s time to file another complaint. Thank you for including the link to push for accountability.

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Yasha's avatar

"Moms for Liberty." A group that (unironically) cares for neither subject in their name.

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Punkette's avatar

Thankfully — Moms for Liberty lost all their races on Election Day!

Moms for Liberty Shut Out Nationwide with Every Candidate Losing in 2025 Elections

In a stunning rebuke of the far-right education movement, Moms for Liberty (M4L) candidates failed to win a single contested race across the United States in the November 4, 2025, elections. According to official results, all 31 M4L-endorsed candidates who appeared on ballots in competitive races were defeated, marking the first total shutout for the organization since its rise to prominence in 2021.

https://uomod.com/moms-for-liberty-shut-out-nationwide-with-every-candidate-losing-in-2025-elections/

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Yasha's avatar

Welcome news to be sure!

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Sarah F's avatar

Nice!

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Mike Gelt's avatar

What I do not understand is why universities, medical schools, etc to not do their research before adopting and allowing these courses to be taught. I think we need to examine how these courses are approved by these so called accredited institutions and by whom. THIS GARBAGE SHOULD BE STOPPED AND ANY INSTITUTION THAT ALLOWS THIS SHOULD BE CALLED OUT

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RRMother's avatar

Absolutely right! This is just unreal. Yet another twisty turn in our ongoing American nightmare.

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Kassandra F.'s avatar

Well, we took care of the SEGM issue at WSU, let’s get started on these clowns. It appears that they are trying to sneak a bunch of different anti trans hate groups into the medical education CME’s at various schools. Everyone needs to check to see if their university is doing this so we can be proactive

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Katrina deVille's avatar

A collective of hate groups comprising the majority of recent transphobic social contagion calling centuries worth of trans people existing a social contagion is rich. Also, someone or someones at the Michigan State Medical Society must be not only incredibly bigoted but indescribably stupid. Trans people exist. We are real. We’ve been studied at length by countless respected doctors and medical professionals. Real studies have been put out which are accepted and supported by the top medical experts in the field and in the world. Highlighting the fallacious and distorted quackery balderdash of this charleton Joyce is akin to putting a flat earther on podium at a cartographer convention.

I swear, it’s like all these people have some sort of twisted contest going on to see who can be the most hateful and hurtful.

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RRMother's avatar

Excellent and witty comparison! And you are so right - forms of transgenderism have been shown to happen in other species too. Fish, birds, snakes, insects, and even in other mammals like lions...

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Katrina deVille's avatar

Thank you so much for your kind words…I really do have fun being clever in responses to the most damning of our haters…it’s a form of response which typically lives on a shelf above the radical right’s reach, and that for me makes it all the sweeter blow to deliver ;)

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Nicole's avatar

I looked at the complaint form. I'd love guidance on how to fill it out. Name of the specific course etc. I'm sure we could get a lot of people to complain, I just want to make sure I'm doing it in a way that will be heard.

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SPG's avatar

I came here to say the same thing. I’m not knowledgeable enough to effectively fill out the complaint form. Give me the info and I’ll fill it out regularly!

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Ellen Adele Harper's avatar

Oh my god. Tomorrow I'll make some contacts and see if anyone is organizing a protest.

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Max Kuzma's avatar

Phew, that last paragraph is so real. Battling the pseudoscience is itself like a full time job

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catsongs's avatar

They want to wear us out.

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Jaimie Hileman's avatar

It is, but not a paying one. I'm a professional educator, DEI, Trans and LGBTQ cultural competency, with my own consultancy and WPATH GEI training, and an AASECT educator...and I don't make enough money to live on. Fortunately we get by with my spouses income though we'll be lucky to eat cat food after we're 65.

So it's depressing to see how much money Genspect and SEGM make peddling lies when inclusive evidence based best practice education, training, and policy analysis can't make a go of it. I give all I can give and put the work first, doing pro bono trainings and analysis for small companies and nonprofits or NGOs that otherwise couldn't afford it, because I really believe in the long-term value of the work but watching how people join the hatemongers not because they've true believers but because anti-Trans propaganda is such a moneymaker today. Jamie Reed makes more than $200,000, Riley Gaines makes $260,000, Chloe Cole and Walt Heyer make over $300,000. And that's for perpetuating easily debunkable LIES.

I don't know ANY Trans people making that kind of money telling the TRUTH.

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Max Kuzma's avatar

Well said

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Glen's avatar

It’s ironic that they talk about ideology overriding evidence based treatment.

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SPG's avatar

Someone please post the exact information to fill out the complaint form accurately. I don’t know anything about the medical education community. Thanks!

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Nicola A's avatar

Jesus, they're more openly evil than I thought. The only thing I can say is that anyone who wasn't already evil probably won't be swayed by this stuff. It's extremely overt. Might as well be PragerU.

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catsongs's avatar

What the actual fuck does this idiot's opinion on art and beauty have to do with---well, with ANYTHING? Who are these clowns that turn over their supposed capacity for rationality to "authority" figures who are nothing more than terrified, bigoted lay-people with pissy agendas and no connection to scientific fact? She thinks trans people make "ugly art"? What does that even *mean*, no less how is it a subject for serious academic consideration? Through the looking glass we have surely gone...

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Leah Abram's avatar

I mean, do they not know the art that trans people make? SOPHIE? The Wachowski sisters? And that's only in the mainstream! If they were to even look underground or independent the'd find far more trans artists who are talented!

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catsongs's avatar

They don't want to see; their fear disables their capacity for discovery. Sadly, they need others to feel that way to.

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Leah Abram's avatar

Well, I'll show you some trans art: my art! My music! And I'll let you be the judge!

https://ironcurtain.bandcamp.com

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Talia Perkins's avatar

Give me a freaking! break!

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Jon A's avatar

Pretty clear on the ACCME complaint form which box to check for your complaint:

1. All recommendations for patient care in accredited continuing education must be based on current science, evidence, and clinical reasoning, while giving a fair and balanced view of diagnostic and therapeutic options.

That's what I'm going with, anyway.

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Charlie's avatar

Standard 1 has four parts. That's part 1. I also cited part 4 in my complaint: As part of being a valid medical source, the teaching material is not supposed to encourage any medical practice or approach that might be actively harmful to patients, and while she doesn't explicitly encourage any specific practice like conversion therapy that I saw, she calls for an approach to trans medicine that implicitly encourages conversion therapy as the only good outcome.

A large chunk of the first half of her speech is positioning an entire demographic of patients as less trustworthy in regards to testimony. ('Hyper-individualist', she says.) Then, she cites top surgery scars as an example of 'unhealthy and unnatural body types' in art, and she says she would 'have gouged her eyes out if she'd read' a romance novel which she gives the synopsis for as a joke about how the identities in trans art are 'stereotypical'. (Identities in question = Jewish, fat, transgender, sexually submissive, autistic. The audience laughs and the list of identifiers alone is clearly presented as a joke.) It takes up 3 minutes of the 11 minutes she spends on problems in medicine, (barely any of it is actually about medicine.)

Then, she closes it off with a call to action with the quote: "If you do good science or good medicine, and if you insist on quality and beauty, if you do good art, then you're doing something that's inimical to the trans bullshit." Basically implying in reverse that transgender-ness is inimical to goodness and beauty.

Which, if you take her at her word, "good" science and medicine is medicine that disregards the testimony and self-professed identity of patients that are or might be transgender, and prioritizes 'good, healthy, natural, beautiful' bodies as defined by the perspective and biases of the caregiver. It's really a very old and paternalistic approach, which is ironic considering that she packages it in all this social justice language about gender stereotypes. It's basically "you know more about your patient's lives than they do especially when they're marginalized" the speech.

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Joan the Dork's avatar

The deadliest game of Whack-a-Mole continues...

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Jaimie Hileman's avatar

Excellent description!

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Tommy Lamont's avatar

Thanks for this report, S. Baum

It is critical that the gender spectrum community, as well as the broader LGBTQ+ community, pressure groups, such as the Michigan State Medical Society and other ACCME groups, not to use unscientific, anti-trans materials in CMEs. Thanks for sharing the link to help us do so.

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