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Julie's avatar

I had a vigorous conversation with my sister who lives on the border of Texas and Arkansas about how these kinds of laws make cisgender women less safe and equate to making sure that women are performing femininity to the point where “bounty hunters” don’t come after them in the bathroom. She didn’t believe me until one of her less than feminine friends was confronted in a bar in Ft Worth. My sister was just “outraged.” Yeah, should’ve listened to what those people who are just trying to “protect the women and girls” were ACTUALLY saying…no peace for any women unless ALL women fight back. Trans rights matter for everyone.

Doreen Frances's avatar

When I first got a very short spiky haircut, this happened to me in a YMCA. A woman called management in and was horrified to find "a boy" in the women's changing room. That happened to me on a few occasions. I'm Cis and hetero, but I didn't look the part.

Julie's avatar

I am so very sorry to hear that you had those experiences. Just goes to show that there are plenty of women out there who are complete asses.

JB 1074's avatar

I have never been more angry or embarrassed to have been born a Kansan. It is a shame that when my children's grandparents die, it will be unsafe for them to come to say goodbye to their loved ones.

Humilityswim Dance Media's avatar

😞That is true and sad and horrid. After you’ve taken the time to process how awful that is, I hope you’ll be able to have a chat with those grandkids (AND your parents) how they could participate remotely if it comes to that for safety reasons. Speaking as an elder caretaker with adult kids: simple tech (Zoom, Jitsi, Facetime) can be respectful tools that contribute to maintaining connections. Every staffer in the continuum of ElderCare does this stuff now so you’ll get pro help if you just ask. Talk it out, brainstorm, plan, the jerks only win if we give it to them.

🙏🏽💜

Mike Gelt's avatar

The recently passed anti-transgender laws in Kansas represent one of the most punitive and harmful legislative assaults on the rights, safety, and dignity of transgender Kansans in generations.

These bills go far beyond ordinary policy debates — they actively empower private citizens to target transgender people, including provisions that would allow individuals to sue and seek monetary damages against transgender people simply for using restrooms consistent with their gender identity.

This effectively creates a bounty-style enforcement mechanism that encourages harassment and incentivizes strangers to police and profit from the existence of transgender people in public spaces, including bathrooms and other sex-segregated facilities.

At the same time, the Legislature is advancing measures that would strip away transgender people’s ability to obtain accurate identity documents — including driver’s licenses and birth certificates — by banning gender changes on those documents and requiring re-issuance of IDs reflecting only the sex assigned at birth.

This is an unprecedented intrusion into personal identity that would not only out transgender Kansans to employers, law enforcement, and strangers, but also jeopardize their ability to travel, work, access services, and keep themselves and their families safe.

These laws are inherently discriminatory and dangerous.

They normalize the targeting of a vulnerable minority, strip away basic protections of privacy and autonomy, and compound real, documented harms — including increased stigma, anxiety, and threats to physical safety — that transgender people already face in their daily lives.

I strongly believe that the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU), the ACLU of Kansas, and allied civil rights organizations should take immediate legal action to challenge these provisions in court.

These measures raise serious constitutional concerns under equal protection, due process, and privacy guarantees.

Swift judicial review is essential to protect not only transgender Kansans, but also the basic principles of liberty and justice that all people in this country deserve.

Transgender Kansans — including youth, families, and elders — deserve to live with dignity, safety, and full recognition under the law.

Anything less is a violation of fundamental human rights and a troubling step backward in the fight for equality.

Like the citizens of MN I would hope that the citizens of Kansas will speak out loudly and clearly against this outrageous action and vote these vile legislators out of office in November

Sandra's avatar

This Kansas bill is absolutely draconian and beyond horrible. But exactly how are they planning to invalidate and revert DLs and BCs? Have they been compiling a list of people who have made these changes? If so, how do they know it was done for gender identity reasons and not to correct clerical errors? Also, have they already made lists of people who made these changes years or decades ago (i.e. what if a Kansan changed their documents in, say, 2008)? What if someone moved to KS from another state, having already changed their DL sex marker in the previous state, and their first KS document was the correct marker?

Also, once BCs are issued, typically they have no expiration date, and while they can be reverted in computer systems, they can’t be reverted on the paper copies that the individual has in their hand.

Anybody from KS are elsewhere know how these issues were considered, or will be?

Again, this is absolutely horrible.

Sarah F's avatar

I don't want to share too much in a public forum, but I know of instances of utter incompetence on the parts of state governments in handling birth records. It would not surprise me if databases were so screwed up that finding all the trans birth records is a prohibitively difficult process.

There's another possibility, though, and that's that they don't really intend to seek out our birth records and change our documents. Rather, they intend for us to keep our heads down and not make too much noise, because if we come above radar, we know that they will hose all our documents.

Sandra's avatar

All good points, and also, I hope that the Kansas ACLU will sue over this. In particular, the DL and BC stuff seems like retroactive application of the law, since those initial sex marker changes were legal and proper at the time they were done. I’m assuming, though, that the ACLU can’t sue until after it becomes law, which it hasn’t yet.

Sarah F's avatar

Unfortunately, it's hard to be hopeful over the DL and BC issues. SCROTUS has already signaled its intent to side with the trump administration on that issue. SCROTUS rulings are supposed to be based in a number of judicial principles, including that of "reliance," meaning that you have come to rely on the law saying one thing - and have based a number of major decisions in your life on that - and that changing the law would be detrimental to your situation (i.e. "detrimental reliance"). I think SCROTUS is prepared to overlook all reliance issues.

I think a compelling case in point is my own situation: Decades ago, I had SRS in large part to cement my legal status as female - because that was the precondition required by my state of residence, my birth state, and the federal government. Then they changed the law on me, a few times now, ultimately making my surgical status a considerable hazard if I were ever to be arrested/jailed/imprisoned. That surgery cannot be undone, and if the policies and laws are that I am to use a men's restroom, go to a men's prison, etc., then that puts me at heightened risk for sexual assault and rape. That is a hazard I have suffered BECAUSE I "RELIED" on laws and administrative policies that seemed consistent at the time across all levels of government. In more vernacular terms I've been conned by the government.

errno's avatar

How many more of the things we all said would happen have to happen before people start believing us?

Don Jackson's avatar

Great reporting, thank you! Hopefully the vote to override the expected veto will force this into the public's attention. Do Kansans really want to be known as cruel bigots?

Genevieve's avatar

As someone who lives in Kansas, yes, yes they do.

Anne's avatar

"Bleeding Kansas" ring a bell?

ntai's avatar

Revoking state IDs if one gets "caught"?? That's wild 😵

Glen's avatar

They are revoking state id of anyone who changed it regardless of if they get caught.

GhostoftheWhiteRose's avatar

Kansans (I love my peeps back there!) are already planning a Capitol Pee-In, A Peaceful Demonstration, February 6, 1pm, 300 W. 10th St, Topeka, KS 66612. Meet @ 12:30pm in the lunchroom, to the left past security. On the screenshot I saw it says it has logos at the bottom for: Ace Foundation Affirmative Care Essentials, lgbtqks, and M-Care Healthcare for Everyone. It also says: "Join us as we protest government overreach into the most basic of human bodily functions. Please share and make your voices heard! Ride/carpooling available. Travel expense assistance available. Can't go, but you want to help? -Ask your reps to uphold Gov. Kelly's expected veto. -Donate for travel expenses, funds will be distributed to community members. Unfortunately I can't seem to share a screenshot here which has a QR code for donating thru PayPal.

Night Folks's avatar

Devastation. My whole body is in pain from sheer grief. Unless this gets someone successfully vetoed, I’ll risk arrest every time I drive. And Kansas, even Kansas City, isn’t known for its walkability.

And who knows what happens if I get arrested, with the notoriously corrupt local police.

Glen's avatar

I don't suppose there is any way to go after these " bounty hunters " who get it wrong?

I believe it's a stand your ground state...

Sarah F's avatar

I've never been challenged in a public restroom, but I can imagine myself saying something like, "Now, don't you put me in reasonable fear for my life." It would sort of be like brandishing a gun without even having one.

Glen's avatar

That would only work if they were smart enough to understand what you were saying, for me it would also be true

Humilityswim Dance Media's avatar

Sad-but-true, strategize-opposition-to,

there will be a hierarchy of targets for bountyhunterfreaks: very old+young, BIPOC and anyone solo will get challenged as presumed as

socially-less-defended and less prepared to fight back. I'm sure the ACLU has already filed a lawsuit but: Get Bathroom Friends +don't-go-alone might be one temporary strategy. Ridiculous to have to contemplate, my intersectional educator brain is in overdrive from these developments.

Joan the Dork's avatar

Calling it now- Kansas is the next state that'll get Florida Stripes on the map, if this goes through.

Alice's avatar

Ok so under this law a cis woman could stand inside the entrance of a woman's room and stop every person who comes in and demand to see their genitalia immediately and everyone would have to comply? This doesn't sound like it would make people feel safer.

Anne's avatar

I have never been to Kansas nor have I any intentions of ever going. I have been within a mile of Kansas, at Jack Stack's, but that is as close as I ever need to get. I doubt that Kansas has the ability to get my out-of-state license revoked and I sure as hell would never have a Kansas license.

Cat Poland's avatar

Kansas mom with a trans teen here. I'm exhausted by this damn state. I created this website as a way to fight crazy with crazy, and demonstrate just how asinine this whole thing is. If you're in Kansas, please spread the word, and help us take action! Fall elections can't come soon enough. http://kansaspeepatrol.com