Second offense transgender bathroom usage has a 5 year maximum penalty, but four offenses trigger's Idaho's "persistent violator" statute, which can carry life in prison.
An open conspiracy is still a conspiracy. The people engineering, funding, and carrying out the propaganda campaign and enacting the laws and policies against transgender people must face 42 U.S.C. § 1983, 18 U.S.C. § 241, & 18 U.S.C. § 242 prosecution.
These legislators talk to people; they listen to the people lying and saying these laws are wonderful things -- and they are liars. They know they are saying what they at best wish was true and can sell. It is deceit, lies, propaganda.
And it is criminal.
The investigation and prosecution of these bigots conspiring against transgender people must become a Dem platform plank.
Sadly they may not be through with bathroom bills. I posted it on the other thread on this story but I will repeat it here. I read on a Reddit thread that they are worried about retailers de-gendering their bathrooms to stay out of lawsuits in this law. They are apparently discussing more legislation on this. Are these idiot republicans going to try to ban family restrooms? I would not put it past them to do so.
I tell everybody how to find the topic that I found. Go to MtF Reddit. Put Idaho bathroom ban into the search box at the top. You should see a result that starts with this text on the topic title: The Idaho “bathroom ban”. Click on it and scroll down to section 3 of the text and read the last two paragraphs in this section. The whole topic is worth reading. https://www.reddit.com/r/MtF/comments/1s3fvvd/the_idaho_bathroom_ban_appears_poised_to_pass_and/
"In Idaho's own Senate hearing on HB 752, Tara Townsell of Nampa testified that she has been repeatedly removed from women's restrooms and forced to show ID because of her short hair—and was once denied entry to a maternity ward at a Boise hospital despite being nine months pregnant."
Idaho: deal with SA in the bathroom or SA in prison, your choice.
The history books will see this law as tacit support for the punitive sexual assault of trans Americans everywhere.
The goal of project 2025 isnt to erase us entirely, it is to force us into sex work so that they can turn us into a permanent untouchables and abuse us for centuries.
This is out of control. Deciding where someone can pee is so discriminatory. As a Sis Woman I have peed in men's rooms so many times. What do they plan to do to prove someone is trans- make them pull down their pants- or exray their internal organs. This has got to stop. Hopefully the trans community in some of these awful states will move to less discriminatory ones. This is why my daughter never leave NY.
It's a misdemeanor. Fine and up to 90 days in jail. I checked. They can put you on the sex offender registry if they feel spiteful, but it's still a misdemeanor.
This is Insane. Enough Already. How in any sane Universe is this justified. We are just going to the bathroom to Pee, that's it. Bigotry of the worse, most cruel, most heinous sort. These legislators should be abjectly ashamed of this abomination of a law. Also, how is this even in the slightest bit constitutional? Do we even have a constitution anymore? This crashes into the territory of the eight amendment which prohibits punishments that are considered inhumane or disproportionate to the offense, which this obviously is. Insanity
So how are they defining “biological sex” in this legislation? Presumably, a post-SRS trans person with a clean sealed birth certificate having the correct sex marker would be okay? Or no?
As the legislation in red states grows ever more extreme and hateful, trans people in “safe” blue states are left eyeing the political climate much like a beachgoer eyes the incoming tide: wondering if and when the borders of where it is safe will suddenly contract in, and arrive at their feet.
"So how are they defining “biological sex” in this legislation? Presumably, a post-SRS trans person with a clean sealed birth certificate having the correct sex marker would be okay? Or no?"
Maybe, maybe not. It will depend on how well that trans person meets the prevailing criteria for being correctly identified as the gender that others perceive them to be.
The reinforcement of gender and sexual norms is the driving logic here.
Importantly, people who SA women in public bathrooms will continue to SA women in public bathrooms. If assault laws don’t stop criminals, then what makes the public fall for the demented GOP lie that a bathroom ban would? Laws only impact people who follow them, so it’s very clear that the intent of this is indeed to criminalize the day-to-day existence of trans Idahoans.
Making something that's already illegal more illegal-er lets conservatives 𝘭𝘰𝘰𝘬 like they're tough on 𝘩𝘺𝘱𝘰𝘵𝘩𝘦𝘵𝘪𝘤𝘢𝘭 crime, while not doing anything about the underlying causes of 𝘳𝘦𝘢𝘭 crime... because if they did that, and actually managed to lower crime rates (as tends to happen when more progressive values become public policy), it would be more difficult for them to campaign on public 𝘧𝘦𝘢𝘳𝘴 about crime.
The travesty is that when a TS woman is assaulted in one of Idaho's MEN bathrooms, these same lawmakers are going to say "Well what do you expect? She was asking for it?" I truly wish that christians were right, and that there actually is a hell, because at least THEN I'd know that these people would get what they truly deserve. To all our sisters in Idaho: I'm so very sorry for the horrors you are having to undergo. It's unjust, and I hope that one day it will be declared criminal. You deserve so much better.
Every trans person in Idaho needs to get a concealed carry permit and start carrying immediately. Idaho also has a stand your ground law. If you're complying with the law, and a cis person assaults you for using the restroom the law requires you to use, you are fully within your legal rights to shoot them dead on the spot. They wanted this world, well they can have it.
Problem is that they would then rule it as murder and put you away anyways. They're bigots. Their rules are of the "heads I win, tails you lose" variety.
Yeah, it's rough. I fully get why trans people would not want to carry or even own a firearm. I've had some pretty dark periods in my life, and I'm glad that in those times I didn't own a firearm. That's why I don't own one now. Even with a firearm, I would have never been a threat to others, only myself. But this fear is what's kept me from ever getting one. I'm doing quite well now. Those dark periods are behind me. But statistically, I'm probably still a lot more likely to end up using it on myself than in an act of self-defense. So I fully understand why many trans folks would be hesitant to own a firearm.
But if I lived in Idaho, that calculus would change. If I had to use the men's restroom, suddenly my risk of physical assault would skyrocket, and my chances of using that weapon in self defense would vastly exceed my chances of using it in an act of self-harm.
I have hands I feel to be regrettably large, but I can shoot a large frame pistol well. I have chosen the 7.5FK PSD from BRNO, and have the multi caliber kits, I can fire the 7.5FK, 9mm, 10mm, & .40S&W.
Ironically for any SoCon assaulting me, I could not CCW that large a pistol in "men's" clothing, it would print badly, but it fits fine in a purse . . .
It's also good for brown bears, I hope to carry it if I get to go to Alaska to camp.
Obviously written to make it to the currently stacked and stolen U.S. Supreme Court.
I do not have a passport, but the U.S. is looking less safe for us by the day. And I live in one of the safest states which has numerous protections in law.
Idaho HB 752 introduced by Cornel Rosor who in my opinion lacks any medical knowledge about the transgender community and represents a dangerous step backward for patient care, medical ethics, and individual freedom.
Legislation that inserts politics into private medical decisions undermines the fundamental principle that healthcare choices belong to patients, families, and qualified medical professionals — not lawmakers seeking to impose ideology through statute.
Bills like HB 752 threaten to create fear and uncertainty within healthcare systems, discouraging providers from delivering evidence-based care and placing vulnerable patients at risk of delayed treatment, stigma, and preventable harm.
When government substitutes political judgment for medical expertise, the result is not better care — it is reduced access, fractured trust, and real human consequences for families trying to make deeply personal decisions.
Public policy should be guided by science, compassion, and respect for individual autonomy. Idaho deserves laws that strengthen healthcare access, protect patient dignity, and support medical professionals in practicing according to established standards of care — not legislation that criminalizes or politicizes treatment decisions.
Idahoans should closely examine the real-world impact of HB 752 and hold their elected officials accountable for policies that affect the health, safety, and well-being of their communities.
I ask which Idahoan is going to investigate weather or not an individual is in the right bathroom a police officer, a private citizen, or Cornel Rosor
Idahoans must vote in November and remove this bigoted individual from office
Reminder. Idaho has a stand your ground law. If I lived in Idaho, I would have to use the men's restroom. And I would also get a concealed carry permit and carry while in public. If accosted in the men's bathroom, which the law requires me to use, I would not be afraid to use deadly force to protect myself. If that's they want it, that's the way they get it.
An open conspiracy is still a conspiracy. The people engineering, funding, and carrying out the propaganda campaign and enacting the laws and policies against transgender people must face 42 U.S.C. § 1983, 18 U.S.C. § 241, & 18 U.S.C. § 242 prosecution.
These legislators talk to people; they listen to the people lying and saying these laws are wonderful things -- and they are liars. They know they are saying what they at best wish was true and can sell. It is deceit, lies, propaganda.
And it is criminal.
The investigation and prosecution of these bigots conspiring against transgender people must become a Dem platform plank.
Thank you, Erin
Sadly they may not be through with bathroom bills. I posted it on the other thread on this story but I will repeat it here. I read on a Reddit thread that they are worried about retailers de-gendering their bathrooms to stay out of lawsuits in this law. They are apparently discussing more legislation on this. Are these idiot republicans going to try to ban family restrooms? I would not put it past them to do so.
I tell everybody how to find the topic that I found. Go to MtF Reddit. Put Idaho bathroom ban into the search box at the top. You should see a result that starts with this text on the topic title: The Idaho “bathroom ban”. Click on it and scroll down to section 3 of the text and read the last two paragraphs in this section. The whole topic is worth reading. https://www.reddit.com/r/MtF/comments/1s3fvvd/the_idaho_bathroom_ban_appears_poised_to_pass_and/
Why not just link it?
I will try but web address is quite long so easy to end up with broke link.
Ah. You forgot the r/
https://www.reddit.com/r/MtF/comments/1s3fvvd/the_idaho_bathroom_ban_appears_poised_to_pass_and/
I just fixed it. It should work now.
So trans existence is more harshly punished than the systemic abuses perpetuated by people in power. Got it.
"In Idaho's own Senate hearing on HB 752, Tara Townsell of Nampa testified that she has been repeatedly removed from women's restrooms and forced to show ID because of her short hair—and was once denied entry to a maternity ward at a Boise hospital despite being nine months pregnant."
Ok, JFCARYFKM !!! What the hell ! ???
Idaho: deal with SA in the bathroom or SA in prison, your choice.
The history books will see this law as tacit support for the punitive sexual assault of trans Americans everywhere.
The goal of project 2025 isnt to erase us entirely, it is to force us into sex work so that they can turn us into a permanent untouchables and abuse us for centuries.
This is out of control. Deciding where someone can pee is so discriminatory. As a Sis Woman I have peed in men's rooms so many times. What do they plan to do to prove someone is trans- make them pull down their pants- or exray their internal organs. This has got to stop. Hopefully the trans community in some of these awful states will move to less discriminatory ones. This is why my daughter never leave NY.
Yes. They will in effect "make them pull down their pants," which is what being ordered to show your original birth certificate essentially does.
What is the penalty for relieving oneself in the hallway right outside the bathroom door?
Or on the steps of the Capitol.
It's a misdemeanor. Fine and up to 90 days in jail. I checked. They can put you on the sex offender registry if they feel spiteful, but it's still a misdemeanor.
And yet, the minimum punishment for rape in Idaho is only 1 year of prison.
How exactly is going pee or washing your hands in the “wrong” restroom equivalent to rape?!
This is Insane. Enough Already. How in any sane Universe is this justified. We are just going to the bathroom to Pee, that's it. Bigotry of the worse, most cruel, most heinous sort. These legislators should be abjectly ashamed of this abomination of a law. Also, how is this even in the slightest bit constitutional? Do we even have a constitution anymore? This crashes into the territory of the eight amendment which prohibits punishments that are considered inhumane or disproportionate to the offense, which this obviously is. Insanity
So how are they defining “biological sex” in this legislation? Presumably, a post-SRS trans person with a clean sealed birth certificate having the correct sex marker would be okay? Or no?
As the legislation in red states grows ever more extreme and hateful, trans people in “safe” blue states are left eyeing the political climate much like a beachgoer eyes the incoming tide: wondering if and when the borders of where it is safe will suddenly contract in, and arrive at their feet.
"So how are they defining “biological sex” in this legislation? Presumably, a post-SRS trans person with a clean sealed birth certificate having the correct sex marker would be okay? Or no?"
Maybe, maybe not. It will depend on how well that trans person meets the prevailing criteria for being correctly identified as the gender that others perceive them to be.
The reinforcement of gender and sexual norms is the driving logic here.
Importantly, people who SA women in public bathrooms will continue to SA women in public bathrooms. If assault laws don’t stop criminals, then what makes the public fall for the demented GOP lie that a bathroom ban would? Laws only impact people who follow them, so it’s very clear that the intent of this is indeed to criminalize the day-to-day existence of trans Idahoans.
Making something that's already illegal more illegal-er lets conservatives 𝘭𝘰𝘰𝘬 like they're tough on 𝘩𝘺𝘱𝘰𝘵𝘩𝘦𝘵𝘪𝘤𝘢𝘭 crime, while not doing anything about the underlying causes of 𝘳𝘦𝘢𝘭 crime... because if they did that, and actually managed to lower crime rates (as tends to happen when more progressive values become public policy), it would be more difficult for them to campaign on public 𝘧𝘦𝘢𝘳𝘴 about crime.
100%. This is little more than theater to politicians and most Americans, but its effects are extremely harmful to us.
Yes within the logic of this law, the mere presence of a trans person would constitute an assault.
The travesty is that when a TS woman is assaulted in one of Idaho's MEN bathrooms, these same lawmakers are going to say "Well what do you expect? She was asking for it?" I truly wish that christians were right, and that there actually is a hell, because at least THEN I'd know that these people would get what they truly deserve. To all our sisters in Idaho: I'm so very sorry for the horrors you are having to undergo. It's unjust, and I hope that one day it will be declared criminal. You deserve so much better.
Every trans person in Idaho needs to get a concealed carry permit and start carrying immediately. Idaho also has a stand your ground law. If you're complying with the law, and a cis person assaults you for using the restroom the law requires you to use, you are fully within your legal rights to shoot them dead on the spot. They wanted this world, well they can have it.
Problem is that they would then rule it as murder and put you away anyways. They're bigots. Their rules are of the "heads I win, tails you lose" variety.
Tanya, THANK YOU so much for all of that. If there was ever a time for our community to embrace the 2nd amendment, this is it.
Yeah, it's rough. I fully get why trans people would not want to carry or even own a firearm. I've had some pretty dark periods in my life, and I'm glad that in those times I didn't own a firearm. That's why I don't own one now. Even with a firearm, I would have never been a threat to others, only myself. But this fear is what's kept me from ever getting one. I'm doing quite well now. Those dark periods are behind me. But statistically, I'm probably still a lot more likely to end up using it on myself than in an act of self-defense. So I fully understand why many trans folks would be hesitant to own a firearm.
But if I lived in Idaho, that calculus would change. If I had to use the men's restroom, suddenly my risk of physical assault would skyrocket, and my chances of using that weapon in self defense would vastly exceed my chances of using it in an act of self-harm.
I have hands I feel to be regrettably large, but I can shoot a large frame pistol well. I have chosen the 7.5FK PSD from BRNO, and have the multi caliber kits, I can fire the 7.5FK, 9mm, 10mm, & .40S&W.
Ironically for any SoCon assaulting me, I could not CCW that large a pistol in "men's" clothing, it would print badly, but it fits fine in a purse . . .
It's also good for brown bears, I hope to carry it if I get to go to Alaska to camp.
Obviously written to make it to the currently stacked and stolen U.S. Supreme Court.
I do not have a passport, but the U.S. is looking less safe for us by the day. And I live in one of the safest states which has numerous protections in law.
My heart is with the LGBTQIA+ community in Idaho today. And tomorrow, still, No Kings.
Idaho HB 752 introduced by Cornel Rosor who in my opinion lacks any medical knowledge about the transgender community and represents a dangerous step backward for patient care, medical ethics, and individual freedom.
Legislation that inserts politics into private medical decisions undermines the fundamental principle that healthcare choices belong to patients, families, and qualified medical professionals — not lawmakers seeking to impose ideology through statute.
Bills like HB 752 threaten to create fear and uncertainty within healthcare systems, discouraging providers from delivering evidence-based care and placing vulnerable patients at risk of delayed treatment, stigma, and preventable harm.
When government substitutes political judgment for medical expertise, the result is not better care — it is reduced access, fractured trust, and real human consequences for families trying to make deeply personal decisions.
Public policy should be guided by science, compassion, and respect for individual autonomy. Idaho deserves laws that strengthen healthcare access, protect patient dignity, and support medical professionals in practicing according to established standards of care — not legislation that criminalizes or politicizes treatment decisions.
Idahoans should closely examine the real-world impact of HB 752 and hold their elected officials accountable for policies that affect the health, safety, and well-being of their communities.
I ask which Idahoan is going to investigate weather or not an individual is in the right bathroom a police officer, a private citizen, or Cornel Rosor
Idahoans must vote in November and remove this bigoted individual from office
Reminder. Idaho has a stand your ground law. If I lived in Idaho, I would have to use the men's restroom. And I would also get a concealed carry permit and carry while in public. If accosted in the men's bathroom, which the law requires me to use, I would not be afraid to use deadly force to protect myself. If that's they want it, that's the way they get it.