DeWine announced rules on trans care on Friday in order to stave off a potential veto override of the state's youth gender affirming care ban. These rules would kick most adults off their care.
Again, anyone affected by this, consider coming to Pittsburgh. We're not that far away from Ohio, we have a good number of places that provide gender-affirming care for adults using an informed consent model, and we're a sanctuary city for gender-affirming care, which means we will not provide any info to out-of-state governments or law enforcement.
The city governments of Cincinnati, Columbus, and Cleveland (at least) really need to step up and simply say that this order will not be enforced in their jurisdictions as it violates their local anti-discrimination ordinances for gender identity. Who's going to try to enforce it, the Ohio State Patrol?
Sure, because unbiased bioethicists that aren't affiliated with SEGM or Genspect or similar groups just grow on trees and can easily be accessed and don't cost (I assume) an absolute fortune to contract, right? And everyone can afford 6 months of ongoing mental health counseling and evaluation from a psychiatrist, right? And every endocrinologist has a relationship with psychiatrists and bioethicists in a formal team setting, right? And every trans person in the state has no problem with having all of the state-approved documentation of their treatment with the state as gatekeeper of what is and isn't acceptable, right? And going off of hormones or puberty blockers people are already on for 6 months won't, like, result in lasting unwanted changes that will cost a lot more money to undo, right? I can 100% see the Florida boards doing this next, since they are still in the process of updating and adopting the final non-emergency rules for Florida's healthcare ban. This is horrible and not surprising, but very disheartening. They've been following the TRAP-law/anti-abortion playbook for a while now. Sigh.
Wasn't it just a week ago that people were praising DeWine for standing up to the Ohio's legislature?
This is even worse than Spence Cox, Utah's governor who took a year to do his 180.
I'll be surprised if we make it to the end of next week without Utah and other states doing the same. Pretty sure Cox is reading about this and is upset that he didn't do this first (last year he was the first Gov. to sign a ban on care for kids).
The Christofascists are making a huge push to redefine 'healthcare' for vast swathes of the population. I just want to point out that it's really hard to keep up with Republican swerves. They bitch up, down and center about "burdensome regulations" while doing shit like this to make people they don't like suffer for no legitimate reason.
We have been fighting the good fight against all these awful anti-trans bills & policies for at least 3 years in Ohio. Yesterday, my young adult trans kids gave up & announced they plan to move to MN. Thank you, Erin, for the trans legislative map tracker. It has helped my kids find the safe states to move to. (Here’s hoping Trump doesn’t become President and ban being transgender nationally.)
All of these states aren't just making trans healthcare more difficult to get (or illegal altogether), they are also making LISTS of trans people. This is extremely frightening.
No GOP-leaning state is safe for trans people, either short or long-term. Sooner or later, all or most of them are going to come for adult GAC just like Ohio did. This is (and will continue to) spread across these states like a virulent cancer. As each state does this, it just lowers the activation barrier for the next GOP- leaning state to do the same. Targeting vulnerable groups for political purposes is sadly just too easy and convenient. As for safe “blue” states, they will only be such unless and until the GOP might win the presidency in Congress less than a year from now.
This is very bad, but nonetheless it needs to be pointed out that these are still proposed rules. There is a public comment period, and legally, those comments do have to be taken into account, and there is precedent of massive public outcry derailing rules like these. People from Ohio should make sure to speak up!
It makes no sense to report information regarding gender care to the state. This information should be confidential between the individual and their healthcare provider.
The practical result of this order, if enacted as is, will be trans adults taking grey market or DIY hormones. That will lead to more trans people suffering adverse medical consequences from improper dosage, adulteration, and infections. The death toll will probably not be zero.
It will also lead to people traveling out of state for surgeries, just like abortion. That's an inconvenience for relatively well-off people and a big but not insurmountable obstacle for middle class folks, but it puts treatment out of reach for marginalized people.
These people hate regulations until it works out in their favor to hurt the people they consider the enemy. This whole country gets scarier for us by the minute.
Again, anyone affected by this, consider coming to Pittsburgh. We're not that far away from Ohio, we have a good number of places that provide gender-affirming care for adults using an informed consent model, and we're a sanctuary city for gender-affirming care, which means we will not provide any info to out-of-state governments or law enforcement.
The city governments of Cincinnati, Columbus, and Cleveland (at least) really need to step up and simply say that this order will not be enforced in their jurisdictions as it violates their local anti-discrimination ordinances for gender identity. Who's going to try to enforce it, the Ohio State Patrol?
Sure, because unbiased bioethicists that aren't affiliated with SEGM or Genspect or similar groups just grow on trees and can easily be accessed and don't cost (I assume) an absolute fortune to contract, right? And everyone can afford 6 months of ongoing mental health counseling and evaluation from a psychiatrist, right? And every endocrinologist has a relationship with psychiatrists and bioethicists in a formal team setting, right? And every trans person in the state has no problem with having all of the state-approved documentation of their treatment with the state as gatekeeper of what is and isn't acceptable, right? And going off of hormones or puberty blockers people are already on for 6 months won't, like, result in lasting unwanted changes that will cost a lot more money to undo, right? I can 100% see the Florida boards doing this next, since they are still in the process of updating and adopting the final non-emergency rules for Florida's healthcare ban. This is horrible and not surprising, but very disheartening. They've been following the TRAP-law/anti-abortion playbook for a while now. Sigh.
Wasn't it just a week ago that people were praising DeWine for standing up to the Ohio's legislature?
This is even worse than Spence Cox, Utah's governor who took a year to do his 180.
I'll be surprised if we make it to the end of next week without Utah and other states doing the same. Pretty sure Cox is reading about this and is upset that he didn't do this first (last year he was the first Gov. to sign a ban on care for kids).
What a bunch of evil fuckers!!!
Yep. Never about the kids. And bans are unconstitutional. So I guess the plan is to put so many hurdles up it's effectively banned. F these people.
Do we have another candidate for a DO NOT TRAVEL state? Sure seems that way. There is going to be a mass exodus out of Ohio now too.
The Christofascists are making a huge push to redefine 'healthcare' for vast swathes of the population. I just want to point out that it's really hard to keep up with Republican swerves. They bitch up, down and center about "burdensome regulations" while doing shit like this to make people they don't like suffer for no legitimate reason.
We have been fighting the good fight against all these awful anti-trans bills & policies for at least 3 years in Ohio. Yesterday, my young adult trans kids gave up & announced they plan to move to MN. Thank you, Erin, for the trans legislative map tracker. It has helped my kids find the safe states to move to. (Here’s hoping Trump doesn’t become President and ban being transgender nationally.)
All of these states aren't just making trans healthcare more difficult to get (or illegal altogether), they are also making LISTS of trans people. This is extremely frightening.
No GOP-leaning state is safe for trans people, either short or long-term. Sooner or later, all or most of them are going to come for adult GAC just like Ohio did. This is (and will continue to) spread across these states like a virulent cancer. As each state does this, it just lowers the activation barrier for the next GOP- leaning state to do the same. Targeting vulnerable groups for political purposes is sadly just too easy and convenient. As for safe “blue” states, they will only be such unless and until the GOP might win the presidency in Congress less than a year from now.
This is very bad, but nonetheless it needs to be pointed out that these are still proposed rules. There is a public comment period, and legally, those comments do have to be taken into account, and there is precedent of massive public outcry derailing rules like these. People from Ohio should make sure to speak up!
It makes no sense to report information regarding gender care to the state. This information should be confidential between the individual and their healthcare provider.
So he vetoed the bill because it wasn’t bad enough.
The practical result of this order, if enacted as is, will be trans adults taking grey market or DIY hormones. That will lead to more trans people suffering adverse medical consequences from improper dosage, adulteration, and infections. The death toll will probably not be zero.
It will also lead to people traveling out of state for surgeries, just like abortion. That's an inconvenience for relatively well-off people and a big but not insurmountable obstacle for middle class folks, but it puts treatment out of reach for marginalized people.
And HRC just sent out an email yesterday praising this fool
These people hate regulations until it works out in their favor to hurt the people they consider the enemy. This whole country gets scarier for us by the minute.