The claim, which originates from far-right professor Eric Kaufmann, appears to have made a glaring error: the survey actually shows more people have come out, not fewer.
Even if the data were correct they are drawing the wrong conclusion from it. That isn't evidence that it's made up. If it were true then that would be evidence that the current hate campaign is pushing people back on the closet. They might still be trans but now unwilling to pursue it. Taking their data at face value paints them as cruel
Thanks, Erin, for helping trans people who like me identify as either male or female have the information necessary to rebut the absurd claims of this so-called survey.
Republican statistics are like normal statistics, except your audience will believe the numbers say whatever you tell them even if you're showing them a blank page.
Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.
Sorry, Erin, it´s the professor in me. Please note the corrections:
"But as the data HAVE now been reviewed by independent researchers"
And later:
"Data ARE powerful, but only as reliable as the person interpreting THEM."
Datum = singular.
Data = plural.
Common error.
Otherwise, wonderful article! There's no excuse for sloppy science and lazy statistical analyses. It makes me wonder whether this guy has any training in statistics. (Actually, I needn't wonder. I read his article. He drew conclusions without any sort of probabilistic statistical analysis - perhaps just a simple Chi-Squared analysis. I wouldn't accept that even from an undergrad student. Heck, they're even teaching probability and statistics in high school now.)
These far right extremist will do and say anything ( lie, cheat, create false narratives ) that will try to prove their point. Kaufman, musk and the far right idiots need something or someone to keep their names in the news otherwise they feel they would loose standing in their world
Not identifying as a man/male or woman/female is not a measurement of non-binary identity because it also includes anyone who does not want to identify their gender/sex for a variety of reasons.
It's also important to recognize that small changes in small populations looker large in percentage terms, but not analytically.
Also, as Erin points out, nonbinary misses the entire population of binary trans people, such as me. I would be categorized with the mostly cisgender population by these methods, which would be incorrect/invalid.
The term "gender non-conforming" needs to be carefully defined. It obviously doesn't cleanly equate to "trans" or "non-binary." If gender non-conformity means not conforming to heteronormative expectations for one's gender and/or sex, then it could be seen that every cis gay person is gender non-conforming simply for being gay. That's a rhetorically slippery slope — but perhaps a useful one...?
To those who would eliminate us, "gender non-conformity" is the bottom line "crime" committed by all those who identify as LGBTQ+, as well as anyone who identifies as "feminist," easily seen as another mode of "gender dysphoria," understood as dissatisfaction and unhappiness with one's sexed and gendered social position. "Gender traitors" all, as the Republic of Gilead would have us.
Thank you for doing this work!
Even if the data were correct they are drawing the wrong conclusion from it. That isn't evidence that it's made up. If it were true then that would be evidence that the current hate campaign is pushing people back on the closet. They might still be trans but now unwilling to pursue it. Taking their data at face value paints them as cruel
great point
Insidious and evil, but what did we expect?
Thanks, Erin, for helping trans people who like me identify as either male or female have the information necessary to rebut the absurd claims of this so-called survey.
But my conservative family will eat this up without fact checking or an understanding of science. So sad.
Centre for Heterodox Social Science?? Foundation for Individual Rights and Expression??
I think I hear George Orwell laughing...
I think that might be crying.
Fabrication of facts is simply yet another tool in the propagandist's kit.
Let Matty, etc think that the number of trans people are on the decline. Maybe they will leave us TF alone.
They should go back to counting their money and leave the rest of us alone
Lies, damned lies, and Republican statistics.
Republican statistics are like normal statistics, except your audience will believe the numbers say whatever you tell them even if you're showing them a blank page.
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Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.
- Jean-Paul Sartre
Sorry, Erin, it´s the professor in me. Please note the corrections:
"But as the data HAVE now been reviewed by independent researchers"
And later:
"Data ARE powerful, but only as reliable as the person interpreting THEM."
Datum = singular.
Data = plural.
Common error.
Otherwise, wonderful article! There's no excuse for sloppy science and lazy statistical analyses. It makes me wonder whether this guy has any training in statistics. (Actually, I needn't wonder. I read his article. He drew conclusions without any sort of probabilistic statistical analysis - perhaps just a simple Chi-Squared analysis. I wouldn't accept that even from an undergrad student. Heck, they're even teaching probability and statistics in high school now.)
Even if these numbers were "true", I would think it would be because more trans people would be afraid to identify as such.
Or like me, they've left the country. Going into exile didn't mean I ceased to exist. ;-)
These far right extremist will do and say anything ( lie, cheat, create false narratives ) that will try to prove their point. Kaufman, musk and the far right idiots need something or someone to keep their names in the news otherwise they feel they would loose standing in their world
"the survey actually shows more people have come out, not fewer."
Go figure that!
Not identifying as a man/male or woman/female is not a measurement of non-binary identity because it also includes anyone who does not want to identify their gender/sex for a variety of reasons.
It's also important to recognize that small changes in small populations looker large in percentage terms, but not analytically.
Also, as Erin points out, nonbinary misses the entire population of binary trans people, such as me. I would be categorized with the mostly cisgender population by these methods, which would be incorrect/invalid.
The term "gender non-conforming" needs to be carefully defined. It obviously doesn't cleanly equate to "trans" or "non-binary." If gender non-conformity means not conforming to heteronormative expectations for one's gender and/or sex, then it could be seen that every cis gay person is gender non-conforming simply for being gay. That's a rhetorically slippery slope — but perhaps a useful one...?
To those who would eliminate us, "gender non-conformity" is the bottom line "crime" committed by all those who identify as LGBTQ+, as well as anyone who identifies as "feminist," easily seen as another mode of "gender dysphoria," understood as dissatisfaction and unhappiness with one's sexed and gendered social position. "Gender traitors" all, as the Republic of Gilead would have us.