What gets me is watching all these groups roll over and then act like they were forced to do this. It is a choice to expel trans people instead of fight for us.
And of course, it is mostly funded by Rowling, who embarrrasses anyone with claims to humanity. As a Cis-Woman with two Trans-girls in my family, I am tempted to start a GS Troop that invites Transkids in. No time like the present.
Given the fact of evolution, It’s amazing that some people are actually capable of going to such unfathomable and despicable lengths to populate the world with their anti-humanity, nastier than Satan’s farts, hateful boorish and empirically undefined bigotry, racism and misogyny. The cruelty it takes to think or say that a trans girl isn’t a girl at all, or a trans boy isn’t a boy at all or the same for trans women or men is as deeply cruel as it was for Nazi’s to murder upwards of 30 million people. It’s worse than saying that the Holocaust didn’t happen or that slavery was good for Black persons. I’m nauseous just thinking about it. Evolution better hurry up or humanity will go the way of the dinosaurs and earth will be left with only Demogorgons that will eat each other.
As always, thanks for the great reporting, and keeping track of the history that led to this decision. The links are so helpful. The Guardian article is heartbreaking, and points up how far backwards we have moved.
I saw that. Ironically, I saw that on a Facebook page posting the BSA with their Scouts (as opposed to long coed Explorer program) now mandates Councils permit a Charter Org that wants to, the opportunity to raise a coed Troop (Charter Orgs are not mandated to have coed units, but regional councils must permit them.).
Of course, that option Councils must administer if A Charter Org so chooses prompted Kegbreath to curtail DoD support of all BSA organizations.
If the DoD is lucky, despite Kegbreatjh, the BSA will continue to accept the DoD as an institution the BSA can associate with in good conscience.
The UK is no longer an accepting government they have become a country that refuses to accept anyone who is a little different from them, they are anti-trans to antisemites. They have let the most ignorant, immoral, of their country infiltrate their judicial and government institutions. unfortunately they are not the only ones. I include the US. Why intelligent, educated people won’t stand up is beyond me.
The order is cruel beyond measure. The most outlandish part is that the organization that promotes girl getting together and doing stuff is still accepting transgender BOYS, who are BOYS. Since when did boys start wanting to hang around with a bunch of girls doing girl stuff? I can't even.
On another note, while my daughter has purged her possessions of all things Harry Potter, I have still kept our original hardbacked copies of the book series. I did it because of the nostalgia I felt for all of the time that we spent as a family reading the stories together out loud and then watching the movies and complaining about the messed up story lines. So many precious memories with our children. But today, I am throwing the books into the trash - not giving them away to some charity shop, but throwing them away so that that no one can profit from them. I am also going to rip out random pages to make them totally useless. I am fed up with Rowlings disgusting behavior. And I am so, so sad about all the trauma her involvement is inflicting on children who just want to be children....fuck her.
Isn’t the April UK Supreme Court ruling subject to some type of review, oversight, and possible negation by a higher European court?
That is what I thought I heard. Can anyone provide an update on this?
In the meantime, the situation in the UK wrt trans people is tragic, even worse than in the U.S., since the UK is small and has no “blue states” to flee to.
I saw that they put out a statement saying essentially this - "Hey, trans boys and young men are still welcome, isn't that nice" - as if this isn't *another* attack on another set of trans people. No, most trans boys don't really want to join a girls' group on account of being gendered as girls, so to say they're "still" allowed in as if it's a big favor that should elicit a breath of relief from them is just as disgusting as banning trans girls in the first place.
Insane that an org that pretends to stand with trans people so easily regenders trans boys in the same breath as it excludes trans girls. Masks are off and the org needs to be held accountable for this two-faced, slimy betrayal.
Because to TERFs, trans boys are just troubled, confused girls. Moreover, according to TERFs, trans girls are duplicitous boys with penises. Penises, by the way, are bodily organs only used for penetration, especially of the nonconsensual kind. Ergo, some boys belong in Girl Scouts and some girls do not.
It's all so wrong it would be laughable if it wasn't also cruel.
If you are faced with demands from a cultural movement that targets 𝘤𝘩𝘪𝘭𝘥𝘳𝘦𝘯 for discrimination, vilifies 𝘤𝘩𝘪𝘭𝘥𝘳𝘦𝘯 as dangerous to the whole rest of society, and you cave in to them without fighting until the fight is beaten out of you... then you are not the heroes. You're not even the villains. You're just 𝘤𝘰𝘭𝘭𝘢𝘣𝘰𝘳𝘢𝘵𝘰𝘳𝘴.
What gets me is watching all these groups roll over and then act like they were forced to do this. It is a choice to expel trans people instead of fight for us.
Yes, and especially when in their statement they claim to believe in inclusion and support for the marginalized. Smells of cowardice.
Stinks of it.
Once again, the cruelty is the point. My heart goes out to these innocent girls.
Yes. And that’s what makes it so cruel.
And of course, it is mostly funded by Rowling, who embarrrasses anyone with claims to humanity. As a Cis-Woman with two Trans-girls in my family, I am tempted to start a GS Troop that invites Transkids in. No time like the present.
This make me sick. I was a Girl Scout Leader for years and gender/sexual orientation is a non issue.
"Girlguiding believes strongly in inclusion..."
The evidence does not support that assertion.
Given the fact of evolution, It’s amazing that some people are actually capable of going to such unfathomable and despicable lengths to populate the world with their anti-humanity, nastier than Satan’s farts, hateful boorish and empirically undefined bigotry, racism and misogyny. The cruelty it takes to think or say that a trans girl isn’t a girl at all, or a trans boy isn’t a boy at all or the same for trans women or men is as deeply cruel as it was for Nazi’s to murder upwards of 30 million people. It’s worse than saying that the Holocaust didn’t happen or that slavery was good for Black persons. I’m nauseous just thinking about it. Evolution better hurry up or humanity will go the way of the dinosaurs and earth will be left with only Demogorgons that will eat each other.
This is so wrong and it seems they’re caving to pressure
I feel like we have truly entered bizzaro world. I have long noted about how inclusive Girl Scouts is vs Boy Scouts.
I am very curious if the US Girl Scouts have made a statement regarding this…
I will be glad when the social fad of bullying trans kids is over. So weak.
As always, thanks for the great reporting, and keeping track of the history that led to this decision. The links are so helpful. The Guardian article is heartbreaking, and points up how far backwards we have moved.
I saw that. Ironically, I saw that on a Facebook page posting the BSA with their Scouts (as opposed to long coed Explorer program) now mandates Councils permit a Charter Org that wants to, the opportunity to raise a coed Troop (Charter Orgs are not mandated to have coed units, but regional councils must permit them.).
Of course, that option Councils must administer if A Charter Org so chooses prompted Kegbreath to curtail DoD support of all BSA organizations.
If the DoD is lucky, despite Kegbreatjh, the BSA will continue to accept the DoD as an institution the BSA can associate with in good conscience.
The UK is no longer an accepting government they have become a country that refuses to accept anyone who is a little different from them, they are anti-trans to antisemites. They have let the most ignorant, immoral, of their country infiltrate their judicial and government institutions. unfortunately they are not the only ones. I include the US. Why intelligent, educated people won’t stand up is beyond me.
The order is cruel beyond measure. The most outlandish part is that the organization that promotes girl getting together and doing stuff is still accepting transgender BOYS, who are BOYS. Since when did boys start wanting to hang around with a bunch of girls doing girl stuff? I can't even.
On another note, while my daughter has purged her possessions of all things Harry Potter, I have still kept our original hardbacked copies of the book series. I did it because of the nostalgia I felt for all of the time that we spent as a family reading the stories together out loud and then watching the movies and complaining about the messed up story lines. So many precious memories with our children. But today, I am throwing the books into the trash - not giving them away to some charity shop, but throwing them away so that that no one can profit from them. I am also going to rip out random pages to make them totally useless. I am fed up with Rowlings disgusting behavior. And I am so, so sad about all the trauma her involvement is inflicting on children who just want to be children....fuck her.
Isn’t the April UK Supreme Court ruling subject to some type of review, oversight, and possible negation by a higher European court?
That is what I thought I heard. Can anyone provide an update on this?
In the meantime, the situation in the UK wrt trans people is tragic, even worse than in the U.S., since the UK is small and has no “blue states” to flee to.
But trans boys can still join?
I saw that they put out a statement saying essentially this - "Hey, trans boys and young men are still welcome, isn't that nice" - as if this isn't *another* attack on another set of trans people. No, most trans boys don't really want to join a girls' group on account of being gendered as girls, so to say they're "still" allowed in as if it's a big favor that should elicit a breath of relief from them is just as disgusting as banning trans girls in the first place.
Insane that an org that pretends to stand with trans people so easily regenders trans boys in the same breath as it excludes trans girls. Masks are off and the org needs to be held accountable for this two-faced, slimy betrayal.
Because to TERFs, trans boys are just troubled, confused girls. Moreover, according to TERFs, trans girls are duplicitous boys with penises. Penises, by the way, are bodily organs only used for penetration, especially of the nonconsensual kind. Ergo, some boys belong in Girl Scouts and some girls do not.
It's all so wrong it would be laughable if it wasn't also cruel.
More compliance in advance.
If you are faced with demands from a cultural movement that targets 𝘤𝘩𝘪𝘭𝘥𝘳𝘦𝘯 for discrimination, vilifies 𝘤𝘩𝘪𝘭𝘥𝘳𝘦𝘯 as dangerous to the whole rest of society, and you cave in to them without fighting until the fight is beaten out of you... then you are not the heroes. You're not even the villains. You're just 𝘤𝘰𝘭𝘭𝘢𝘣𝘰𝘳𝘢𝘵𝘰𝘳𝘴.