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Ellen Adele Harper's avatar

Wonderful. Can we find accredited professionals to fight back against this sort of ignorant blather? It should not go unchallenged.

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Bridget B.'s avatar

We are! At every turn ❤️ I just wanted to add as therapists, doctors, psychiatrists, endocrinologists, we are on lists - in zoom rooms —on the phone to our legislators. It’s been nonstop most of the year and I’m sure there’s more I could personally do but they are well organized, and yet I have hope we will out organize them in the long run. Plus with Erin, team and larger Community we shall prevail.

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Talia Perkins's avatar

~The majority of the “expert” comments cited in the “peer review” seem to be just as deliberately ignorant as the authors about the reality of trans people’s care~

Deliberately. They have an ideological motivation to hurt and belittle and be cruel to transgender people. They do not care what is measured to be real, only what they can get away with.

The connections between these people and others in the Dark Enlightenment movement, the Seven Mountains delusion common to the Bible Thumpers, the Heritage Foundation, ACPeds, SEGM, et all . . .

The people engineering, funding, and carrying out the propaganda campaign and enacting the laws and policies against transgender people must face 42 U.S.C. § 1983, 18 U.S.C. § 241, & 18 U.S.C. § 242 prosecution.

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Mike Gelt's avatar

Just another piece of bullshit written and backed by right wing zealots along with ignorant billionaires who have no morals or ethics. This piece of BS is just so they can use it to go on right wing media and podcasters and push their false claims. We must not let them get away with this. we must go on these same shows and push back on this erroneous bullshit.

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WendyCeb's avatar

Leor Saphir spoke at Middlebury College recently. It was protested by a group led by Lia Smith, the student who died by suicide a few weeks ago. I cannot express by continued fury that Middlebury encouraged him to speak. He was invited by a professor.

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Devin's avatar

By Laidlaw’s logic, we should treat type 2 diabetes with counseling alone rather than using medication. See what these sleazy quacks do?

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Sarah F's avatar

May all these charlatans be humiliated and ostracized within their professional circles.

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Kayla's avatar

According to a 2018 survey, 66.6% of endocrinologists self-reported their practice focus as being on diabetes. That's two-thirds of endocrinologists who have no idea even the first step to transition. Endocrinologists also treat a wide range of other conditions, including thyroid disorders, polycystic ovarian syndrome (PCOS), growth disorders, hormone-related infertility, menopausal disorders, and metabolic disorders. The majority of the women I have encountered being treated for PCOS, are receiving substandard and ineffective care. So just because someone is an endocrinologist doesn't mean they know anything about transitioning.

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Jackson Marrs's avatar

Wpath has several statements in response to the falsehoods used in legislation trying to invalidate medical care etc. I was glad to see this . There should be more in the form of public appearances with media however so the general public heard the experts talk about the falsehoods . Wpaths next symposium is in Mexico City November of this year

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Glen's avatar

I had an appointment with mine for thyroid checkup after surgery. She saw my labs from my hormones and asked why my e was so high. She didn't know anything and asked if I had bottom surgery right away. She was happy and supportive but ignorant.

My real question is what are they planning to do with the report?

What can they actually do?

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Kayla's avatar

The only real reason to create a report like this would be for the justification of any kind of despicable treatment they have planned against us.

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Jackson Marrs's avatar

Again where are the real experts regarding transgender care/medicine? What is WPATH doing? I mean ethically our providers get paid for our care but dont speak up and educate ? I mean no wonder these people get a way with this? If they were making up bullshit about diabetes or cancer or any other medical condition real medical professionals would be all over this!

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Joel W. Crump's avatar

We're in a time when truth is debatable, according to our enemies, I don't mistake it, all the years of trying to be friendly to the political right were apparently a waste of time, they have aligned with an ideology so warped it has destroyed our society from the inside, in less than a year of Trump's second presidency. I don't think it's tolerable - I think we have to stand against it, to the death. The future of civilization is in play.

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MICHELLE PATE's avatar

Thank you for keeping us informed!

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Terri's avatar

Surprised it doesn't include noted luminaries like Matt Walsh, Michael Knowles, Jordan Peterson and Elon Musk (yes, sarcasm intended...).

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Alice's avatar

Thank you for your work laying out the detail. Super helpful for refuting this stuff. Sounds like none of these people have actually done any research- just opinions presented as facts.

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Joel W. Crump's avatar

Their brains are broken, they don't look at the evidence objectively, the few on the political right who have voted positively for trans rights did so because they saw the evidence for it, but others just dismiss it and contradict it, because it's something their constituents don't accept. Ultimately, we have to educate people, and refuse to back down to the hypocrites like Trump, a sexually abusive cis man dictating policies about gender and sexuality, fuck that, we demand better than the turd sandwich.

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Ian Wolfe's avatar

Gorins logic in most of his writing is flawed as he misunderstands how systematic reviews are used in clinical medicine. Yet he keeps getting his bad faith arguments platformed

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Talia Perkins's avatar

I have yet to figure out how we can be "platformed" and why we haven't managed it already.

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Ian Wolfe's avatar

I think some have. I’ve spoken at a few places and have written items for several sites and publications. I know some others have. I was asked to be on a panel with Gorin, I considered it but backed out. I know some who have taken those opportunities and I think we should. It’s a tough balancing act to not fan the flames and platform but show up to be the reasonable voice.

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HY's avatar

Evgenia Abbruzzese and Maia Poet - mother daughter duo of spreading hateful bullshit. What is going on in that family to where ruining other people's lives is their end goal?

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Jenny "Starr" Hansen's avatar

How do the anti-woke grind those axes so sharply, with their eyes so scrunched up? Don't they know that frowns cause wrinkles, not krinkles?

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Tommy Lamont's avatar

Fantastic reporting, S. Baum. Thank you for your relentless investigation of this horrible miscarriage of common sense and decency. Your work gives every one of your readers the evidence needed to ague back against the anti-trans fear-mongers.

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Elly Kay's avatar

Has anyone asked these “experts” to place themselves as the people the “experts” in the discourse they argue?

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