Wildly enough, what he's also implying is that American public schools (famously over funded) are also free 24/7 child care centers that provide free gender reassignment surgeries worth thousands of dollars.
If the MFL believe this crud he vomiting, THEIR schools must've been just free child care centers. It's hard to get up from the floor from laughing at this nonsense. If they only knew how long it takes just to get an appointment! What's next? Liver transplants at recess?!!!
Yeah, and I want metoidioplasty and have waited months for my consultation. I think it will be 9 months by the time I get it. Then it'll take another year to try to get the money for it. I have to pay out-of-pocket because I don't have civilian insurance and the VA won't provide surgeries for trans veterans. What a pickle. If schools provided that, I'd be first in line. LOL
It's just so bizarre. He can literally say the most outlandish things (and does), and they eat it up. I'm 100% convinced he could convince his cult to eat their own waste if it would help them avoid the "woke mind virus."
There's a phenomenon in fascist politics of spreading easily-debunked falsehoods about scapegoated minority out-groups, where the goal isn't necessarily even to convince audiences of the veracity of blatant falsehoods. Instead, there's a shared belief and reaction among in-group adherents that even if the specific allegations aren't true, they're in a sense "believable enough" because of broader perceptions about the group and that the accusations "might as well be true" because the purported transgressions of the out-group are egregious enough as a whole that (to fascists) they speak to a broader "truth" about the types of things the out-group "would do." Members of the in-group then act accordingly, as if the accusations are true (even when they are aware they are not). This comes up with things like the "identifying as a cat and using a litter box" type nonsense still getting trotted out as well.
There is another technique that I'll nick name "true by association", by which several things which are known to be common knowledge and thought to be unquestionably true to the audience, are stated along with something that the speaker wishes the audience to believe. When several truths are grouped along with one falsehood which the audience does not know to be true or false, the falsehood is often accepted as true since the other facts were known to be true.
There are many examples of this written by religious writers for pieces published by organizations like the heritage foundation on topics like homosexuality for instance.
The human brain is easily hacked and critical thinking skills are rarely emphasized in our schools. There is a fascinating discussion of mass brainwashing by a former high ranking Moonie given as a Ted Talk available on you tube. The man was a very intelligent college student before he was inducted/abducted.
Absolutely. I'm glad to see this point made. That broader "truth" about the out-group that exists within and despite the obvious lie, is related to what Kellyanne Conway was getting at when she said about Trump: “The press takes him literally, but not seriously; his supporters take him seriously, but not literally.”
On the one hand I hope that if he says such insane things he will continue to lose voters, which seems to be happening. On the other, I'm terrified of the consequences of this constant fearmongering, as ridiculous as it is. Even if he loses, the cultish morons following him will feel that much more called to acts of violence and hate against anyone they perceive as "woke."
Especially given the fact that they will turn everything around and say that the fact he lost is a "sign that he comes to close to the truth and he is being stopped by the deep state as a result"...
Always remember: for Trump, the role model is Viktor Orbán, the Hungarian autocrat, who is responsible for the greatest inflation rate in modern Hungarian history, and a major economic recession that made many Hungarians economic refugees in the world while LGBTQ+ people became 'actual' refugees. We also have one of the highest working hours per week in the EU for very small money while our leaders here in Hungary are constantly raising taxes to get shamelessly richer and richer from our hard work and taxes.
In 2023 January-March the inflation rate was more than 25%, click on 5Y to see! This will happen to you if Trump comes to power.
And Viktor Orbán is the role model for Geert Wilders. The extreme-right fascist moron in The Netherlands with his Party for Freedom (it has as much a disdain for the concept of it as the Republicans in the US) that holds views scarily identical to the NSDAP of Adolf Hitler.
In a Dutch business paper I already read about the negative impact of xenophobic propaganda on the Dutch economy. There is huge labor shortage in certain sectors which will force longer worktime for the Dutch worker for the same amount of wages and not to mention hindered GDP growth... A genuine drop of living standards is unfolding. The losers are the ordinary people and the winner is the hatemongering politician that makes a living of turning people against each other.
For all of you in this thread, this is dangerously serious. I'm shaking my head in disbelief while understanding it can happen here too. There's lots of people wanting the same thing to happen in the U.S. without realizing who will benefit from an autocratic government. They'll all be whining and sorry they followed that guy into the depths of hell.
This happened to Great Britain too with Brexit, the country was ruined by its conservative government and by Nigel Farage - who is also a friend of Orbán -, they also had high inflation and are having economic troubles.
People thought that in 2016 and look what happened. Folks are much more aware of that virus, but many aren't. I wish it were the end of October right now. I don't want to hear another 2 months of his garbage and watch what they'll do with his bullshit speeches.
Never underestimate the enemy. Move forward with full force and crush him into nothingness. Vote, donate, volunteer. The alternative will be worse than death, it will be a slow and painful slide into oblivion.
I get my T and group therapy from the VA, If they cut federal funding for Trans care all that goes out the window. I know I can go to Planned Parenthood for T, but as a Veteran should I have to? What about continuity of care? Let’s all remember how much Trump loves Veterans. Am I right?
Right. He's full of shit and is being trashed for his behavior at Arlington National Cemetery. His nephew is trashing him right back. That man is a disaster and nightmare. I'm concerned just like you, because I'm a vet as well and getting all my care at the VA. UGH!!!
I really wish schools had taught us about transgender folks when I was young, it would have explained so much and saved me a bunch of grief. Despite all the attacks from the gender critical crazies I feel that we are moving in the right direction. The vitriol being spewed should be looked upon as growing pains and much preferable to stagnating in the closet of ignorance that so many of us experienced.
Slight correction here Erin: The IOC does not exclude transwomen from competing in women's sports, they actually revised their guidelines in 2004 and relaxed them, and ever since, it took 20 years for a transathlete to compete in the Olympic Games.
Edited to note that they have allowed individual sports to restrict trans people, though the abdication on the issue does lead to trans people being restricted unfortunately.
Cue MAGAt terrorists sending bomb threats to schools, threatening to blow them up if they don't reveal their top-secret operating rooms in... three... two...
good in in a round about way? the more stupid words leaving the mouths of all Retrumplicans is informing their friends and families and lets them know just how stupid they really are. Everyone is here on earth for a reason, a good reason... but just cant figure out why trump is here.. lol
I'm not religious, I am fairly spiritual, but I'm sure he is the Anti-Christ to test people's morals, principles, values, etc. See how much they align with God's Will and their Bible. A reckoning is here and he's a huge wake-up call to humanity!
I can’t make myself believe that someone can believe this. You’d think his loved ones, aides, SOMEONE should ask him if he really believes such an outlandish thing. Are they sure that his people would reject him if he said “that got away from me, sorry”. What is going on??
Considering that this is the guy who called a whole extra press conference just to double down on a misstatement about the weather, complete with a sharpie-doodled map as a visual aid... even if a reporter honestly and directly held his feet to the fire on this, the chances of him ever apologizing for so much as a single word he lied are less than nonexistent. He might deny ever having said a thing, or try to blame someone else for it- or, more likely, double down on the lie even harder- but apologize? It'll never happen.
Yeah, well, he's in big trouble now because he admitted out loud that he interfered with the election and said he's allowed to. They may create another charge ... just for his stupid mouth blabbing on himself.
They've also got him admitting, on tape, to retaining classified government documents, acknowledging that he didn't in fact declassify them, that he knew he wasn't supposed to have them, and that he knew he wasn't supposed to show them to other unauthorized people- while showing them to other unauthorized people- and 𝘵𝘩𝘢𝘵'𝘴 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘤𝘢𝘴𝘦 𝘵𝘩𝘢𝘵 𝘨𝘰𝘵 𝘥𝘪𝘴𝘮𝘪𝘴𝘴𝘦𝘥 because one of his own bent-as-fuck appointees caught it. Evidence doesn't get any more solid than that- and it's in the public domain; anyone can download a copy of that recording- but somehow that's the case that's dead pending appeal, and he's walking free whipping up a fresh pack of assholes to attempt another coup with.
For some reason, shit that would choke any other politician's career to death just bounces right off him, and he's all the more dangerous for every scandal his candidacy survives. I'll believe that bastard is going down when he 𝘪𝘴 down and 𝘴𝘵𝘢𝘺𝘴 down- not before.
Cuz he’s crazy enough to open the door of fascism, which is what a lot of people want (or ignore). We’ve learned nothing if we underestimate that guy and his handlers. NOTHING!!
He’s working off the idea that if you never apologize (because you’re the victim) and say something often enough it becomes “true”. He knows it’s a lie and doesn’t care because he thinks it serves him in some way.
Wildly enough, what he's also implying is that American public schools (famously over funded) are also free 24/7 child care centers that provide free gender reassignment surgeries worth thousands of dollars.
If the MFL believe this crud he vomiting, THEIR schools must've been just free child care centers. It's hard to get up from the floor from laughing at this nonsense. If they only knew how long it takes just to get an appointment! What's next? Liver transplants at recess?!!!
Yeah, and I want metoidioplasty and have waited months for my consultation. I think it will be 9 months by the time I get it. Then it'll take another year to try to get the money for it. I have to pay out-of-pocket because I don't have civilian insurance and the VA won't provide surgeries for trans veterans. What a pickle. If schools provided that, I'd be first in line. LOL
MFL = motherfucking liars?
Thank you for that. I was scratching my head. LOL
It is difficult to believe anyone even the felon followers are believing the crap that flows out of the felons mouth. Yet they do.
It's just so bizarre. He can literally say the most outlandish things (and does), and they eat it up. I'm 100% convinced he could convince his cult to eat their own waste if it would help them avoid the "woke mind virus."
It's coming!
Yeah, I call it the "MAGA mind virus". And it's far more accurate than what Elon Musk recently decried.
There's a phenomenon in fascist politics of spreading easily-debunked falsehoods about scapegoated minority out-groups, where the goal isn't necessarily even to convince audiences of the veracity of blatant falsehoods. Instead, there's a shared belief and reaction among in-group adherents that even if the specific allegations aren't true, they're in a sense "believable enough" because of broader perceptions about the group and that the accusations "might as well be true" because the purported transgressions of the out-group are egregious enough as a whole that (to fascists) they speak to a broader "truth" about the types of things the out-group "would do." Members of the in-group then act accordingly, as if the accusations are true (even when they are aware they are not). This comes up with things like the "identifying as a cat and using a litter box" type nonsense still getting trotted out as well.
There is another technique that I'll nick name "true by association", by which several things which are known to be common knowledge and thought to be unquestionably true to the audience, are stated along with something that the speaker wishes the audience to believe. When several truths are grouped along with one falsehood which the audience does not know to be true or false, the falsehood is often accepted as true since the other facts were known to be true.
There are many examples of this written by religious writers for pieces published by organizations like the heritage foundation on topics like homosexuality for instance.
The human brain is easily hacked and critical thinking skills are rarely emphasized in our schools. There is a fascinating discussion of mass brainwashing by a former high ranking Moonie given as a Ted Talk available on you tube. The man was a very intelligent college student before he was inducted/abducted.
Absolutely. I'm glad to see this point made. That broader "truth" about the out-group that exists within and despite the obvious lie, is related to what Kellyanne Conway was getting at when she said about Trump: “The press takes him literally, but not seriously; his supporters take him seriously, but not literally.”
On the one hand I hope that if he says such insane things he will continue to lose voters, which seems to be happening. On the other, I'm terrified of the consequences of this constant fearmongering, as ridiculous as it is. Even if he loses, the cultish morons following him will feel that much more called to acts of violence and hate against anyone they perceive as "woke."
Especially given the fact that they will turn everything around and say that the fact he lost is a "sign that he comes to close to the truth and he is being stopped by the deep state as a result"...
Always remember: for Trump, the role model is Viktor Orbán, the Hungarian autocrat, who is responsible for the greatest inflation rate in modern Hungarian history, and a major economic recession that made many Hungarians economic refugees in the world while LGBTQ+ people became 'actual' refugees. We also have one of the highest working hours per week in the EU for very small money while our leaders here in Hungary are constantly raising taxes to get shamelessly richer and richer from our hard work and taxes.
In 2023 January-March the inflation rate was more than 25%, click on 5Y to see! This will happen to you if Trump comes to power.
https://tradingeconomics.com/hungary/core-inflation-rate
And Viktor Orbán is the role model for Geert Wilders. The extreme-right fascist moron in The Netherlands with his Party for Freedom (it has as much a disdain for the concept of it as the Republicans in the US) that holds views scarily identical to the NSDAP of Adolf Hitler.
He was at CPAC Hungary very much liking Orbán...
In a Dutch business paper I already read about the negative impact of xenophobic propaganda on the Dutch economy. There is huge labor shortage in certain sectors which will force longer worktime for the Dutch worker for the same amount of wages and not to mention hindered GDP growth... A genuine drop of living standards is unfolding. The losers are the ordinary people and the winner is the hatemongering politician that makes a living of turning people against each other.
For all of you in this thread, this is dangerously serious. I'm shaking my head in disbelief while understanding it can happen here too. There's lots of people wanting the same thing to happen in the U.S. without realizing who will benefit from an autocratic government. They'll all be whining and sorry they followed that guy into the depths of hell.
This happened to Great Britain too with Brexit, the country was ruined by its conservative government and by Nigel Farage - who is also a friend of Orbán -, they also had high inflation and are having economic troubles.
https://www.resolutionfoundation.org/press-releases/biggest-inflation-shock-in-over-40-years-has-turned-britain-into-a-nation-of-savers/
Well that would have made my exorbitant private school tuition more worthwhile :)
He will not win in 2024 because he cannot be allowed to win in 2024.
People thought that in 2016 and look what happened. Folks are much more aware of that virus, but many aren't. I wish it were the end of October right now. I don't want to hear another 2 months of his garbage and watch what they'll do with his bullshit speeches.
Never underestimate the enemy. Move forward with full force and crush him into nothingness. Vote, donate, volunteer. The alternative will be worse than death, it will be a slow and painful slide into oblivion.
They make it like you can just walk into a Walgreens and get bottom surgery. It took me a year and a half with insurance. That is considered FAST
I get my T and group therapy from the VA, If they cut federal funding for Trans care all that goes out the window. I know I can go to Planned Parenthood for T, but as a Veteran should I have to? What about continuity of care? Let’s all remember how much Trump loves Veterans. Am I right?
Right. He's full of shit and is being trashed for his behavior at Arlington National Cemetery. His nephew is trashing him right back. That man is a disaster and nightmare. I'm concerned just like you, because I'm a vet as well and getting all my care at the VA. UGH!!!
I really wish schools had taught us about transgender folks when I was young, it would have explained so much and saved me a bunch of grief. Despite all the attacks from the gender critical crazies I feel that we are moving in the right direction. The vitriol being spewed should be looked upon as growing pains and much preferable to stagnating in the closet of ignorance that so many of us experienced.
If they were I’d enroll first thing tomorrow morning.
Slight correction here Erin: The IOC does not exclude transwomen from competing in women's sports, they actually revised their guidelines in 2004 and relaxed them, and ever since, it took 20 years for a transathlete to compete in the Olympic Games.
https://olympics.com/ioc/news/ioc-releases-framework-on-fairness-inclusion-and-non-discrimination-on-the-basis-of-gender-identity-and-sex-variations
Edited to note that they have allowed individual sports to restrict trans people, though the abdication on the issue does lead to trans people being restricted unfortunately.
In essence, the IOC is turning over the determination of eligibility to the regulating bodies of the separate sports, right?
Yes, and in doing so they wash their hands of the issue and knowingly ignore bigotry that has already spread across many federations.
Cue MAGAt terrorists sending bomb threats to schools, threatening to blow them up if they don't reveal their top-secret operating rooms in... three... two...
1. Trumpy and Moms for Liberty are lying
2. How can you tell?
1. Their lips are moving.
Hahahahaha. Right on!
good in in a round about way? the more stupid words leaving the mouths of all Retrumplicans is informing their friends and families and lets them know just how stupid they really are. Everyone is here on earth for a reason, a good reason... but just cant figure out why trump is here.. lol
I'm not religious, I am fairly spiritual, but I'm sure he is the Anti-Christ to test people's morals, principles, values, etc. See how much they align with God's Will and their Bible. A reckoning is here and he's a huge wake-up call to humanity!
What is actually going on in his head?
I think RFK's brain worm got to trump first
I can’t make myself believe that someone can believe this. You’d think his loved ones, aides, SOMEONE should ask him if he really believes such an outlandish thing. Are they sure that his people would reject him if he said “that got away from me, sorry”. What is going on??
Considering that this is the guy who called a whole extra press conference just to double down on a misstatement about the weather, complete with a sharpie-doodled map as a visual aid... even if a reporter honestly and directly held his feet to the fire on this, the chances of him ever apologizing for so much as a single word he lied are less than nonexistent. He might deny ever having said a thing, or try to blame someone else for it- or, more likely, double down on the lie even harder- but apologize? It'll never happen.
Yeah, well, he's in big trouble now because he admitted out loud that he interfered with the election and said he's allowed to. They may create another charge ... just for his stupid mouth blabbing on himself.
They've also got him admitting, on tape, to retaining classified government documents, acknowledging that he didn't in fact declassify them, that he knew he wasn't supposed to have them, and that he knew he wasn't supposed to show them to other unauthorized people- while showing them to other unauthorized people- and 𝘵𝘩𝘢𝘵'𝘴 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘤𝘢𝘴𝘦 𝘵𝘩𝘢𝘵 𝘨𝘰𝘵 𝘥𝘪𝘴𝘮𝘪𝘴𝘴𝘦𝘥 because one of his own bent-as-fuck appointees caught it. Evidence doesn't get any more solid than that- and it's in the public domain; anyone can download a copy of that recording- but somehow that's the case that's dead pending appeal, and he's walking free whipping up a fresh pack of assholes to attempt another coup with.
For some reason, shit that would choke any other politician's career to death just bounces right off him, and he's all the more dangerous for every scandal his candidacy survives. I'll believe that bastard is going down when he 𝘪𝘴 down and 𝘴𝘵𝘢𝘺𝘴 down- not before.
Cuz he’s crazy enough to open the door of fascism, which is what a lot of people want (or ignore). We’ve learned nothing if we underestimate that guy and his handlers. NOTHING!!
He’s working off the idea that if you never apologize (because you’re the victim) and say something often enough it becomes “true”. He knows it’s a lie and doesn’t care because he thinks it serves him in some way.