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Ellen Adele Harper's avatar

By the Goddess, let's all keep our fingers crossed. It was trans folks who started Compton's and Stonewall. Maybe it'll be trans folks who start the revolution.

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KingRayVet's avatar

They were all Black & Puerto Rican too. Too bad the same racist rift is being maintained within the LGBTQ+ since those days, so that all the warriors are being treated with apathy, racism, and isolated. We don't feel like fighting for people like that anymore. I'm too old to stir up the troops because there's no appreciation of what we're about as a culture. In the face of what I've been seeing/experiencing, even here on Substack, naaaaaaaa I'm good. Let people, who have never really had to fight for their rights before, do it. All talk, talk, talk and no action. Interesting.

I tried to start the revolution 3-4 years ago & last year (I think) and everybody had wide-eyes but closed mouths. Cheers to a miracle happening ... I really do mean it!!!

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Sarah Davis's avatar

By “even here on this Substack”, I presume you are referring to a recent exchange where you called a woman a “bitch” a “stereotypical white Karen bitch”, “Karen White”, “wypipo”, labelled her a misandrist, and told her to act like a woman rather than a man-hating feminist?

This was after first instructing any woman who disagreed with you to “check those egos at the door”. She refused and you went for her. She appears to have deleted all her posts and left the Substack.

Women are used to abuse like this on X and other unmoderated social media. On Erin’s Substack it is simply deplorable, no matter how much you felt provoked.

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KingRayVet's avatar

No, not specifically. With regards to that, since she deleted all her offensive statements, I will not explain myself to you. She was being a racist prick, and I know it. You didn't (rhetorical)? Of course she deleted everything she said. She knows she was poking the bear and got mauled. Next!

Somebody punches me on the internet, I'll punch back. No doubt about it, Ms. Davis. She could've kept it civil, but didn't. If you can't stand that heat, don't start one in the kitchen.

Yes, I warned women to not get in a pissing match with me about that subject, so she deserved it and I don't care what women like you say about it. I don't. If you're not judging her for what she said, then you're biased, among other things.

Considering what she did, ask yourself why I left that entire thread there. Don't ask me; ask yourself. You'd start whining about my answer.

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Talia Perkins's avatar

Here's hoping for a ruling however narrow that prohibits state prohibition or interference with needed medical care.

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Tawni Sofia Acosta's avatar

Well this does scare the you know what out of me based on this Supreme Court

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Jackie's avatar

Thanks Erin. Excellent reporting as usual. I am very grateful for your reporting skills and dedication. It, you, make me feel informed.

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Sandra's avatar

I’m not getting my hopes up here for a favorable SCOTUS ruling. What I am hoping for is that an adverse ruling would still allow progressive states (i.e. the dark blue states on Erin’s map) to permit GAC within their borders, similar to how Dobbs didn’t prohibit abortion everywhere, leaving states still free to allow (or ban) the procedure as they wanted. That may be the best we can hope for with regard to GAC and other areas of trans rights. Basically, it’s more or less what we have now.

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Emily's avatar

But the next step on their agenda would then be to target the sanctuary states the same way they want to do with abortion and the same way it went with masks going from a choice to now on the verge of being banned for everyone in NC.

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Sandra's avatar

Agree…the right-wing zealots will target trans people any way they can….so in the event of a “states’ rights” -type of SCOTUS decision, it will be up to the blue progressive states to hopefully stand firm and strongly defend trans rights. The largest blue states - such as NY and CA- might have the size and clout to do that.

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KingRayVet's avatar

For real? There's a ban on masks there? How strange.

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Emily's avatar

Last I heard it was waiting for governors signature but already people are using it to attack cancer patients wearing masks. There was an article about it last week somewhere.

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KingRayVet's avatar

Oh no. What justifies banning of masks? Sorry, but I'm not bent enough to understand that ... not at all. Even if I get a cold, I wear one. Nobody's going to tell me not to. They going to put people in jail for wearing them? How stupid!

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Emily's avatar

Not that this will make it make sense, but it’s just one article that talks about it. Didn’t try to find the story about the cancer patient being coughed on and spit on because someone thought it was a law already and they were wearing a mask. When she explained it and showed proof of cancer they replied “I hope you die from your cancer”—all because she was wearing a mask. 🤦🏻‍♀️

https://ncnewsline.com/2024/05/15/nc-senate-approves-bill-making-it-a-crime-to-wear-a-mask-in-public/

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Vash_the_Stampede's avatar

Yeah, but that doesn't help those of us that can't afford to live in those states. My family fled Florida last year, and landed in North Carolina. It was the best we could afford. There's trans folks stuck in deep red states too. What about us?

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Vanessa Schmithorst's avatar

There are plenty of others of us living in blue or purple states ready and willing to help you escape.

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allie's avatar

Sounds like a realistic and sobering prediction.

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Josey's avatar

It is a scary time for our rights, but I wouldn't trade this life for anything.

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KathyPartDeux's avatar

This SCOTUS has not shown itself to be bound by precedent, equal treatment, responsible application of laws or basic morality.

They will only rule in favor of trans people if it directly impacts others like themselves in ways that they can’t lie about to mitigate.

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Cassie's avatar

Thank you, Erin, for not just reporting on these types of extremely important cases, but also for taking the time to carefully articulate the merits of each such case as well as the prevailing precedents. You make extremely complicated legal arguments much easier to understand for us lay people!

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Rachel Baldes's avatar

Seems like they want it both ways here. As long as they're upholding the tradition recently begun by this particular court to make as many people second or third class citizens without bodily autonomy.

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Celeste's avatar

This whole thing just makes me sad. I really wish cis folks could understand just what it's like to be trans. To understand how much of a difference transitioning makes for us. How significant and wonderful it is. If they actually understood they wouldn't make laws that hurt us or force their children to suffer the wrong puberty.

If the way the 6 conservative justices acted with regards to what happened in Idaho continues forth, its going to be a very sad day for us across the nation

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Ivy's avatar

Idaho was much more about reigning in Judicial over-reach than anything to do with the actual law. The problem is that they selectively reign in Judicial over-reach. But in that instance the case was ripe for them to pick up.

Whether they will rule for or against trans rights to access care is a toss of a coin at this point. Justice Barrett recently pushed back against originalists interpretation and things like the deeply rooted test Erin described in the article. So much so that it was an over rebuke of Thomas.

While not a shining light of hope, it is a glimmer that the originalist and deeply rooted bullshit is going too far for some of the conservative justices. She herself is a deeply originalist justice so it was quite a suprise writing on her part.

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KingRayVet's avatar

I had a similar wish for white people regarding Blacks. Add on top of that 'trans'. I'm doing something about it in my neck of the woods, but it won't help the majority of us for some time. If the boom lowers in November, it may not matter what I'm doing.

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allie's avatar

Understanding these legal reasonings taxes my intellect. Yours are the only writings that explain it well enough for me to grasp both the law as written and the judge's gymnastic justifications.

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Emily's avatar

If they hear the case in the fall, do we know when we might hear a decision?

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Ryn's avatar

The majority will not rule based on laws, but rather on how their political party and bribers want them to rule

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Vash_the_Stampede's avatar

*Sigh* I'm just trying to live a quiet life, raise my son, and be left in peace. Why some fascist asshats have to make some big stink over something that literally doesn't affect them at all is beyond me. I'm so damn tired of it.

Also, I don't create sex hormones on my own anymore. All that stuff was yeeted into a dumpster years ago. What happens if I have to go off my testosterone? Because I get really sick if I miss my dose for too long. I can stretch it for about 3 weeks, and that's it. I've heard I can actually die, I've heard I'm at an extreme risk of broken bones, and I've been told "I don't know." So, yeah, fun times.

I'm trying not to freak out because we don't know what's going to happen, but it's hard.

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Joan the Dork's avatar

As if the stakes this year weren't high enough already, right, now we get to also worry about a threat that not even a favorable election result can be counted on to fix. A bad ruling here will likely take decades to unfuck, even if we do manage to avert the worst-case scenario of another Trump Presidency.

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Joel W. Crump's avatar

I defy the reasoning Alito driveled in Dobbs. And if it's applied to GAC for minors, I defy that just as much. This is lifesaving medicine, just as abortion is. We shouldn't be trapped in the 19th century or earlier, today. Period. It's craziness, Alito is a total asshole, and so are the other four justices who signed onto Dobbs. The 14th amendment should stand for something, among other aspects of the constitution. This is war.

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