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Talia Perkins's avatar

It sucks. The decision is plainly contrary to constitutional principles. Not a lot to say except impeachment isn't only for Presidents.

There are parts of the US federal code that provide even for the death penalty for those who participate in a conspiracy to deny Americans their constitutionally protected liberties.

At least for some social conservatives, prosecution for that has to happen.

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Night Folks's avatar

Clearly corrupt SCOTUS judges MUST be impeached and removed, then tried for their blatant bigotry.

In the meantime… what fights for our rights can the ACLU muster? Last night’s blue sweep offers some hope, but this is awful, awful news…

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Pam P's avatar

From the shadow docket. The SCOTUS traitors don’t even take the time to explain their ruling— because they know it sucks. Cowards.

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Jacob Hale's avatar

While I was expecting this, it is a shock to my system to know that I am, in effect, stuck in this country the government of which wants me not to exist.

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Michelle Paquette's avatar

The “sex” marker was not originally on US passports. It was added in 1977 on recommendation from an international standards body, to address difficulties that passport control officers had in verifying identity, given the androgynous fashions in clothing and hair introduced several years earlier.

The passport control officer has to determine if the person standing before them is the person identified on the passport, along with all the other necessary administrative tasks they must complete, and has to do so within a minute or so. Reverting the sex marker of an intersex or transgender person to the sex as identified at birth doesn’t help the officer at all, as the sex marker conflicts with the presentation of the person before them.

The officer may see a person with full beard and mustache, well muscled and somewhat hairy, and that “F” sex marker just establishes a conflict that is difficult to resolve, and slows down processing considerably. Even a strip search won’t be useful if the person before the officer has done a full medical transition, which is why the US State Department started changing markers in 1992 for individuals who had completed medical transition.

Verifying the sex marker under the proposed rule would require performing a full karyotype using multiple samples (as a person who had a bone marrow transplant or who has given birth to a male child may show both XX and XY chromosomes, and an intersex person may show XXY, X0, or other anomalies), and would take many hours and considerable expense per person.

In short, this change does not aid in identification but does greatly raise the effort and expense of the passport control operation at a port of entry. Further, it greatly increases the risks to a transgender traveler should they by accident or restrictions have to transit through Doha, Dubai, or other places where a gender marker not matching one’s appearance is a criminal/religious offense.

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Ariel's avatar
Nov 7Edited

And that's the point. They want to make the process cause the most harm possible to trans & intersex people. They want us to suffer even if it causes massive contradictions, inefficiencies, and federal funds.

They want to apply emotional, mental, social, financial, administrative, and physical harm. They do not believe we are real and will do anything to prove we're pretending. Anything they think will make us 'stop pretending' because it's too inconvenient or hostile.

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Lauren Glenn's avatar

Well, if you're trans, I would probably make it a point to avoid the middle east and surrounding area, in general.

Midnight Express wasn't a comedy movie.

I just have to ask at this point what the point of doing this is except to be cruel to people whose outcomes don't affect your life but they love controlling and micromanaging forcing us to live by their beliefs. I'll never get another passport again if Dems don't bother to change it back this decade...

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Sheeby's avatar

May they reap what they sow.

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April Razz's avatar

welp it was only a matter of time. i finally got mine a whole week ago and couldn't even really be happy about it bc i knew it probably wouldn't last. but yknow it totally feels like they intentionally stalled it until after the recent elections just to try to rob as much joy as possible. truly wish everybody involved an increasingly unlikely and bizarre series of horrible accidents 🙏

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Alex's avatar

Hopefully they dont undo the Orr passports already issued. They'd previously stated it would cost approximately $130 and 1 hour of personnel time per record to reissue. Wouldn't put it past them but still a chance it remains valid.

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April Razz's avatar

i absolutely think they'll try their best to

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Alex's avatar

They'd rather send money to bail out Argentina than use pre allocated funds for SNAP, so yeah, hard to disagree.

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Lauren Glenn's avatar

I'm not paying for anything like that. That's not going to happen. I have a valid passport. I'd rather find a way to sue saying if physical gender and appearance is irrelevant to what's on the document, then it doesn't NEED to be on the document in the first place. If I legally changed my name, that's reflected there.... if I put in different colored contacts and say I'm blue eyed now, that would go on there.... But this?

No. The only winning move seems to be to remove this marker because it means nothing now.

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sara sunland's avatar

I keep hoping that divine intervention would take these bums out painfully because of the pain they inflict on others! This karma crap doesn’t work fast enough to stop these soulless demons from bringing it down on others!

AND I DOUBT THERE WILL BE FAIR OR EVEN ELECTIONS AT ALL IN OUR FUTURE ‼️‼️ These demons won’t give up control unless it’s wrested from their dead little hands!

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Sarah F's avatar

If there really is a god, it's either a mean SOB or a lousy shot.

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sara sunland's avatar

That’s how my life goes!

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sara sunland's avatar

Or like some believe, a trickster!

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Joan the Dork's avatar

The Shameful Six can eat my entire ass.

Justices Sotomayor, Jackson, and Kagan need to start staging walk-outs when they know they can't affect the outcome of these Shitter Docket rulings. To even participate in the process is giving these lawless fascist fucks a veneer of legitimacy they do not deserve.

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Stacy Dudovitz's avatar

Emotionally I agree.

But consider...

If they walked out then their dissents would not be part of the public record. I think it's more important that they go on record. History will then judge accordingly...

Sometimes the long game is the only game you get to play.

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Joan the Dork's avatar

They're on the record regardless- it's just a matter of 𝘸𝘩𝘪𝘤𝘩 record. The 𝘤𝘰𝘶𝘳𝘵 record is irrelevant right now- almost no one outside the legal profession reads court decisions or dissents in full, and few people beyond that field read them at all. Their words, however incisive or insightful, are rarely reported in the press.

The soap box would be a 𝘸𝘢𝘺 more powerful platform for the minority Justices right now than the bench is. Behind closed doors, and out of the public eye, they're nearly impotent.

But... three Supreme Court Justices solemnly filing out of the building to hold a press conference on the front steps of the Court itself, condemning the actions of their rogue colleagues forcefully and before the eyes of the world, even as the latest bought-and-paid-for ruling is handed down- now 𝘵𝘩𝘢𝘵'𝘴 a dissent for the history books, not just the law books. It'd be something with no precedent in living memory. It would shock the country, enrage the whole of the Republican party and their apparatchiks in the media, and get We The People 𝘵𝘢𝘭𝘬𝘪𝘯𝘨 about the decisions this canker sore of a Court keeps rubber-stamping in the shadows.

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Tracy's avatar

My kids live here, and I’m never leaving them. If this frcking country and a majority of voters want me to die, then just come and get me.

This death by 1000 cuts is ruinous and intolerable.

…… Oh, right… THE CRUELTY IS THE POINT

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Celeste's avatar

This is just pointlessly cruel. Sad.

It’s utterly absurd to me that they refuse to see the obvious discriminatory intent and go out of their way to ignore it.

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catsongs's avatar

They see it. They endorse it.

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Chrissy  Ulrey's avatar

Thank you for your super quick reporting of this, Erin. I wish it were better news, but grateful for your work.

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Tony D's avatar

That orange asshole got three justices added and they turned this country into Christian fascism

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Terra M.'s avatar

My passport expires in November 2026. I guess I'll have to live without a passort after that. It must be even shittier for those without a proper passport at all.

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sara sunland's avatar

Even better, leave the country before it expires! But he is probably going to take that option away because he already discussed preventing us from leaving before!

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Terra M.'s avatar

I have been considering that and doing the necessary research ever since Cheeto Mussolini was inaugurated. This might speed plans up.

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sara sunland's avatar

Me too! Trying to sell my house first, but no one is even buying now unless you give it away!

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Lauren Glenn's avatar

This is why when Trump won in 2024 that I looked up and rushed to get my passport renewed early and paid extra to expedite. Got it back in 3 weeks with a book and passport card. We need Dems to win in 2026 and 2028.... and that's depending on if they actually care to do anything about this... my guess is that they won't make this any form of priority which makes it more sad.

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Marie Lewis (She/They/Fae)'s avatar

My current passport with a proper gender designation is about 5 years old. So hopefully it won't be revoked and this nasty policy will not be there in 5 more years...

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Jaimie Hileman's avatar

Republicans are telling us who they really are and we ignore them to our utmost peril.

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Brianna Amore's avatar

Fucking hell. I'm supposed to travel to Canada this holiday to visit my family. Fuck SCOTUS and FUCK TRUMP.

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