Certain types of mental illness prevent people from knowing their condition. I say that very seriously; not meaning to impugn mental illness in general, as it is just another form of illness like any physical illness. But when it obscures perception of reality for a sufferer, and they won't listen to inputs, then it is a toxic menace. I list a few journal references on this at the end of this post:
When my daughter came out to me as trans I didn't start a hate group. I wasn't perfect but I listened to her and cared about her and her needs and tried to learn about trans people from trans people. I don't understand why you wouldn't continue to love your child.
Absolutely agree with you. My son has made me a better, more understanding and patient mom. I’ll never understand these parents who love their child “conditionally”, and as soon as they show any independent thoughts, unique qualities or are just different than what the parent expects, they go berserk.
I just returned from a workshop in which one of the teachers said, “every one of us is a unique gift from God—don’t you dare put one shred of yourself I the shadows.”
What happened is exactly what she wanted to happen so she can now flap her arms about First Amendment rights. Wouldn’t be surprised if she files a lawsuit against the board over it. If she does you know that was her aim from the start.
It's so funny because I've never once been made to watch a trans person of any gender get undressed. Not in a changing room, not in a bathroom, and certainly not in a school board meeting. I know a lot of trans people and they've never violated my boundaries like this.
Transphobes want to call us perverts and sickos while literally stripping down in front of a bunch of people who clearly didn't consent. I wouldn't trust her to have any part in children's education.
This further confirms my strongly held belief that people who are obsessed with OTHER PEOPLE'S gender identities are mentally unwell and have unresolved issues of some sort themselves. NOBODY who is secure in their own identity gives a shit about how other people identify. They usually say that's nice, good for you, now what else do you want to talk about. And that includes people who aren't even that approving. The same is true of people who are obsessed with other people's sexual orientations. The gayest men in America are men who are virulently homophobic. We all know this.
I think that's obviously true about the more virulent phobes. But just HOW true might it really be? If all the transphobes and homophobes are actually dealing with inner struggles over their own identities and orientation; and if a more accepting society would help them accept their own queerness; then that suggests there is a much higher per capita incidence of trans, gay, nonbinary, etc people than we normally assess, since each of these phobes would, in a less restrictive culture, be one of us.
Indeed, I've always thought that was the case and that the number of LGBTQ+ people is potentially much higher that official stats indicate. I think many more people would stop resisting their natural cross-gender identifications and same-sex attractions in a more accepting culture. But then, that dynamic is what the phobes call "social contagion," and why they seek eradication.
It took me a moment to realize who she was and that her act was a protest against trans rights. Because, HELLO, what she was doing is what all these bathroom bans and such are doing. Causing kids to “prove” their gender. And how else is someone to “prove” their gender in a bathroom? How is exposing your genitals protecting kids or cis women? It’s not.
Didn't she prove the opposite of her point? If locker room nudity is equivalent to bathing suit nudity and people walk around in public in bathing suits then what's the big deal who is in the locker room? Just change on the gym floor.
I'd like to dismiss them as clowns, but it isn't funny how many people take them seriously.
I still carry trauma from undressing in front of boys in school. And forgot bathrooms it had to be extremely urgent for me to go into one in high school, they were filled with bullies and/ or drugs.
When I was young, girls beat up outcast girls and boys beat up outcast boys. I never used the school (girls') bathroom after I was trapped there, had my clothes torn off, had my prescription shoes destroyed, was punched in the face, and lost a tooth to the bullies. To this day (I'm 72) I can tell anybody the names of those bullies, can identify the houses they lived in, and can point out the circuitous routes I used to walk to and from school, so as to avoid them. Parents, teachers, siblings, administrators--everybody ignored the bullies' violence. They even rewarded them--kept us outcasts in line, of course. That is what the current bullies want to happen to another young generation of kids. Words lead to violence, as this incident in Davis demonstrates.
Thanks so much, Liz. When you're "different" (which, as a kid with an orthopoedic disability, I was) you're at the receiving end of a lot of ugliness and abuse, as you noted. I had two choices: I could've abused others in my turn (as payback, I guess) or I could've gone with those who were just as abused as I, no matter how different the reason might be. My watchword comes from a poem by Jose Marti: "with the poor of the earth I want to throw in my lot." So, umm, I did.
The irony is that Beth Bourne undressed SPECIFICALLY so people would look at her. Transgender kids in locker rooms do everything they can to NOT look at others and pray that NO ONE looks at them. People, like Ms. Bourne, make so much noise about "the threat" posed by trans kids and adults. The reality is that we are far more likely to be the VICTIMS, not the perpetrators.
Should change their name to "Moms Providing A New Home For RFK Jr. Brainworm". Would make a lot more sense that way.
Although I guess if you like liberty you would be OK with 1) deciding your own gender identity and 2) taking your clothes off at a school board meeting for no reason. They're halfway there!
What a gross sociopath. I so appreciate her non-binary child speaking out about their mother's cruelty. Thanks for the reporting, Erin! So much to keep up with -- what an incredible job you do.
How are people taking these folks seriously? Like….dafuq?
Certain types of mental illness prevent people from knowing their condition. I say that very seriously; not meaning to impugn mental illness in general, as it is just another form of illness like any physical illness. But when it obscures perception of reality for a sufferer, and they won't listen to inputs, then it is a toxic menace. I list a few journal references on this at the end of this post:
https://jaynasheats.substack.com/p/trans-rights-are-human-rights-but
Cynical people are using these folks to advance their own interests.
A cruel parent what a disgrace to mothers
When my daughter came out to me as trans I didn't start a hate group. I wasn't perfect but I listened to her and cared about her and her needs and tried to learn about trans people from trans people. I don't understand why you wouldn't continue to love your child.
That makes you a great mother
I am a better mother and better person now, because of my daughter.
Absolutely agree with you. My son has made me a better, more understanding and patient mom. I’ll never understand these parents who love their child “conditionally”, and as soon as they show any independent thoughts, unique qualities or are just different than what the parent expects, they go berserk.
Ditto, Sharon. That is our jobs as parents.
I just returned from a workshop in which one of the teachers said, “every one of us is a unique gift from God—don’t you dare put one shred of yourself I the shadows.”
No truer words. 🌻
What did she expect to happen when she took off her pants and shirt? I don’t see what argument she was making.
What happened is exactly what she wanted to happen so she can now flap her arms about First Amendment rights. Wouldn’t be surprised if she files a lawsuit against the board over it. If she does you know that was her aim from the start.
~ . . . a disgrace to humanity ~
FIFY.
It's so funny because I've never once been made to watch a trans person of any gender get undressed. Not in a changing room, not in a bathroom, and certainly not in a school board meeting. I know a lot of trans people and they've never violated my boundaries like this.
Transphobes want to call us perverts and sickos while literally stripping down in front of a bunch of people who clearly didn't consent. I wouldn't trust her to have any part in children's education.
This further confirms my strongly held belief that people who are obsessed with OTHER PEOPLE'S gender identities are mentally unwell and have unresolved issues of some sort themselves. NOBODY who is secure in their own identity gives a shit about how other people identify. They usually say that's nice, good for you, now what else do you want to talk about. And that includes people who aren't even that approving. The same is true of people who are obsessed with other people's sexual orientations. The gayest men in America are men who are virulently homophobic. We all know this.
I think that's obviously true about the more virulent phobes. But just HOW true might it really be? If all the transphobes and homophobes are actually dealing with inner struggles over their own identities and orientation; and if a more accepting society would help them accept their own queerness; then that suggests there is a much higher per capita incidence of trans, gay, nonbinary, etc people than we normally assess, since each of these phobes would, in a less restrictive culture, be one of us.
Indeed, I've always thought that was the case and that the number of LGBTQ+ people is potentially much higher that official stats indicate. I think many more people would stop resisting their natural cross-gender identifications and same-sex attractions in a more accepting culture. But then, that dynamic is what the phobes call "social contagion," and why they seek eradication.
Flip the script.
So to protest trans kids existing in locker rooms she strips at a school board meeting. Yeah that makes sense...
It took me a moment to realize who she was and that her act was a protest against trans rights. Because, HELLO, what she was doing is what all these bathroom bans and such are doing. Causing kids to “prove” their gender. And how else is someone to “prove” their gender in a bathroom? How is exposing your genitals protecting kids or cis women? It’s not.
Didn't she prove the opposite of her point? If locker room nudity is equivalent to bathing suit nudity and people walk around in public in bathing suits then what's the big deal who is in the locker room? Just change on the gym floor.
If a trans person pulled a stunt like this, they'd be hauled bodily from the chamber in handcuffs and put on the sex offender registry.
100%. "Laws for thee, not for me"
I'd like to dismiss them as clowns, but it isn't funny how many people take them seriously.
I still carry trauma from undressing in front of boys in school. And forgot bathrooms it had to be extremely urgent for me to go into one in high school, they were filled with bullies and/ or drugs.
When I was young, girls beat up outcast girls and boys beat up outcast boys. I never used the school (girls') bathroom after I was trapped there, had my clothes torn off, had my prescription shoes destroyed, was punched in the face, and lost a tooth to the bullies. To this day (I'm 72) I can tell anybody the names of those bullies, can identify the houses they lived in, and can point out the circuitous routes I used to walk to and from school, so as to avoid them. Parents, teachers, siblings, administrators--everybody ignored the bullies' violence. They even rewarded them--kept us outcasts in line, of course. That is what the current bullies want to happen to another young generation of kids. Words lead to violence, as this incident in Davis demonstrates.
Dianne, I’m so sorry you were hurt like that. It’s unconscionable that you were treated in such an ugly way. Sending warm hugs to you 🩷
Thanks so much, Liz. When you're "different" (which, as a kid with an orthopoedic disability, I was) you're at the receiving end of a lot of ugliness and abuse, as you noted. I had two choices: I could've abused others in my turn (as payback, I guess) or I could've gone with those who were just as abused as I, no matter how different the reason might be. My watchword comes from a poem by Jose Marti: "with the poor of the earth I want to throw in my lot." So, umm, I did.
Same here although I was more cautious and didn't get hurt
The irony is that Beth Bourne undressed SPECIFICALLY so people would look at her. Transgender kids in locker rooms do everything they can to NOT look at others and pray that NO ONE looks at them. People, like Ms. Bourne, make so much noise about "the threat" posed by trans kids and adults. The reality is that we are far more likely to be the VICTIMS, not the perpetrators.
I´ll happily repeat what I've said before several times, but in a different slightly context.
There's nothing wrong with us; there's something wrong with them.
May we have the strength and wisdom to pity them.
Just WOW, and they say that we are the crazy ones!
Should change their name to "Moms Providing A New Home For RFK Jr. Brainworm". Would make a lot more sense that way.
Although I guess if you like liberty you would be OK with 1) deciding your own gender identity and 2) taking your clothes off at a school board meeting for no reason. They're halfway there!
What a gross sociopath. I so appreciate her non-binary child speaking out about their mother's cruelty. Thanks for the reporting, Erin! So much to keep up with -- what an incredible job you do.
This women torments kids at their schools. She stands outside on the sidewalk screaming horrendous things.
She confronts people outside their homes if they have a pride flag hanging up.
She has tormented her town for several years now. If she would just put half as much energy into making the world a kinder place…
These people are psychotic sociopaths, they prove it everyday, that makes it pathological.
They should be incarcerated.