Ugh. For starters, if there’s no grace period, how are you supposed to get to the DMV to surrender your license? Driving to the DMV would turn into a Class B misdemeanor under this law.
Likely they will be 'detained' in prisons for misdemeanors similar to how brown and black people and anyone not speaking Amurkin anguish are rounded up and disappeared.
The Department of Homeland Security is currently contracting for large medical waste incinerators to be constructed at multiple large capacity for profit detention camps for detainees of all types.
Now the bodies can be disposed of without leaving much forensic evidence. Himmler would be so jelly.
Worse, there's no way you can apply to change it in any reasonable amount of time to comply with the law.
I did apply to change my gender marker back... 4 months ago, and the CA DMV has processed it in their system but hasn't issued me a new physical license.
With this law--if it takes 4-6+ months to have this change (back to AGAB) processed at all, essentially trans people aren't allowed to leave their house (work, doctor, etc.) for at least half a year. Or risk being both arrested + sued and losing everything.
(For context, I was never able to change the gender on my passport before Trump's ban, so I tried reverting my driver's license back so I'm not caught by ICE with technically conflicting IDs. Since that would make it extremely obvious that I'm trans/likely give them a reason to claim my official IDs are fake, which they are already known to do.
Instead that backfired & my electronic driving record now doesn't match my physical license, either.)
Just use public transit, same way you got there to get your first driving license?... Oh right, we're talking about the US here, so there probably isn't any.
OMG... I hope there are folks in Kansas who will help them to escape to another state. This is horrific! Of course they didn't provide for a grace period. It's 1000% HATE there.
Erin, please add Kansas to the 100% NO GO state, like Florida and Texas. Thanks,.
Trans people are what--1% of the population? Whence comes this foaming-at-the-mouth, virulent-anti-trans-hatred, in the State of Kansas? These disgusting lawmakers (and they ARE disgusting!) need to dial down their hatred and get some therapy.
I am going to forward this story to Garmin along with my cancellation of subscription. I would expand my boycott to other corporations located in Kansas but I do not deal in weapons manufacturing, surveillance technology or corporate meat products. Shameful!
Just as many states boycotted North Carolina after they drafted their anti-LGBTQ law several years ago (our state of VT was among the first), so our states should boycott Kansas, not allow anyone to go to conferences there, meetings, etc., and inform Kansas businesses why you are boycotting their products.
Please share if you see any organized boycotts. N.C. really paid attention when bands and the basketball tournaments started canceling. How do we support that?!?
Kansas, Wichita specifically, hosts the largest and most diverse quantity of airplane manufacturers in the world. Bombardier, Boeing, Spirit, Leerjet, etc all have large facilities and have sponsored Wichita State University's engineering department buildings.
Boycotting Kansas hosted businesses will not solve any of the issues we experience here, but I understand the sentiment and am grateful to any who stand with us as we navigate this atrocity.
I am black transman who did not receive a letter as of yet, but my MTF cousin did. In my opinion this is an attack specifically on transwomen.
They have zero legal right to demand your license. You paid for it, you passed all the requirements to obtain said license at the time. Until it is out of date they have zero legal right to do this. You cannot grandfather this in, Period.
Do Not Comply in Advance
Ignore the letter, get into a class action suite against the Kansas state government, sue, sue, sue
Crossing Fingers.....Sorry you are in such a horrible state. Don't come to Texas, just as bad and I am sure they will institute the same f not worse here if it's successful in your state.
Wow. Kansas tops the list of shithole states. Remains to be seen whether the good souls there -- and there must certainly be many -- raise hell about this.
Who wants to bet that the KS state police will have instructions to all be out on traffic patrol the day this fuckery goes into effect? Utterly monstrous.
It reveals something else, too- that the state was already keeping a list of trans people to be targeted. How else would they have known who to send the letters to? The plan was in place before the law was written. It won't end with IDs and bathrooms; the next step will be to put restrictions on jobs, housing, and gun ownership. Watch your backs.
This legislation had gone beyond the pale - I truly cannot use the langue i want to describe the Government of this state
Kansas has crossed a dangerous line and is the most disgusting legislation
A new law now forces transgender residents to surrender their legally issued driver’s licenses and reissue them marked with their birth sex — or risk having their ID declared invalid.
Let that sink in.
The state is telling thousands of people that the identification they obtained lawfully — sometimes years ago — is no longer valid because of who they are.
This isn’t about “administration.
It isn’t about “accuracy.”
It’s about control and humiliation.
Forcing someone to carry ID that misgenders them doesn’t improve safety.
It increases the risk of harassment, job discrimination, denial of housing, and unnecessary police scrutiny.
It puts people in danger.
Government should not be in the business of targeting a small minority to score political points.
Invalidating IDs over gender identity is discriminatory.
It undermines dignity.
It weaponizes bureaucracy against vulnerable people.
Today it’s transgender Kansans.
Tomorrow it’s anyone out of political favor.
If you believe in equal protection under the law, this should alarm you — regardless of party.
We should be expanding freedom, not revoking it.
Kansas lawmakers need to reverse this harmful policy immediately.
It is time that corporations large and small along with business, and the good people of Kansas should be standing together against this these fanatical, racist, and bigoted legislators
True, and it turns out a "Right to ID" does not exist explicitly either in the US Constitution or the UN Declaration on Human Rights. However, it is implied under Articles 6 & 15 of the UNDHR:
Article 6:
"Everyone has the right to recognition everywhere as a person before the law."
Article 15:
"Everyone has the right to a nationality.
No one shall be arbitrarily deprived of his nationality nor denied the right to change his nationality."
They might be effin' evil, but the Christo-fascists seem to have thought this through to at least a first approximation because there seems to be a good bit of legal wiggle-room in pulling somebody's DL.
It's totally a thing to have to walk 88-year-old Mom/Dad/Great Aunt Ida to turn in their DL after their last accident, but they at least get a non-driving ID in exchange. This doesn't sound like that, but is anybody checking ?
If you look at the big picture, this could be their plan for disenfranchising large amounts of trans people with sudden license suspensions+voter id laws
Republican lawmakers: How to immediately create a new undocumented population of “illegals” This is so unconstitutional it’s sick.
It's simple, when they run out of criminals, they simply create new criminals to persecute.
THIS exactly!
Ugh. For starters, if there’s no grace period, how are you supposed to get to the DMV to surrender your license? Driving to the DMV would turn into a Class B misdemeanor under this law.
Likely they will be 'detained' in prisons for misdemeanors similar to how brown and black people and anyone not speaking Amurkin anguish are rounded up and disappeared.
The Department of Homeland Security is currently contracting for large medical waste incinerators to be constructed at multiple large capacity for profit detention camps for detainees of all types.
Now the bodies can be disposed of without leaving much forensic evidence. Himmler would be so jelly.
Transgender genocide?
What transgender people?
Do you have a link or source for this ?
Factually is somewhat skeptical, but not totally dismissive of current reports on this.
https://factually.co/fact-checks/politics/dhs-contracts-detention-units-incinerators-required-dfa4d7
Worse, there's no way you can apply to change it in any reasonable amount of time to comply with the law.
I did apply to change my gender marker back... 4 months ago, and the CA DMV has processed it in their system but hasn't issued me a new physical license.
With this law--if it takes 4-6+ months to have this change (back to AGAB) processed at all, essentially trans people aren't allowed to leave their house (work, doctor, etc.) for at least half a year. Or risk being both arrested + sued and losing everything.
(For context, I was never able to change the gender on my passport before Trump's ban, so I tried reverting my driver's license back so I'm not caught by ICE with technically conflicting IDs. Since that would make it extremely obvious that I'm trans/likely give them a reason to claim my official IDs are fake, which they are already known to do.
Instead that backfired & my electronic driving record now doesn't match my physical license, either.)
SCOTUS has actually said no law can be valid where obeying it makes you a criminal.
can you cite that thanks
Not so much a decision as dicta -- the protection against self incrimination applies. You can not be made a criminal by obeying a law.
Of course, they'll say you should have used a cab...
Dicta from which case?
Lots of them. I think they even said a criminal could not be charged with lying on their taxes about where they get their money.
Exactly like they’re doing to immigrants who show up at their lawful appointments.
Just use public transit, same way you got there to get your first driving license?... Oh right, we're talking about the US here, so there probably isn't any.
OMG... I hope there are folks in Kansas who will help them to escape to another state. This is horrific! Of course they didn't provide for a grace period. It's 1000% HATE there.
Erin, please add Kansas to the 100% NO GO state, like Florida and Texas. Thanks,.
The idea that any State government, or legislature, or legislator has nothing better to do than this is utterly revolting.
Trans people are what--1% of the population? Whence comes this foaming-at-the-mouth, virulent-anti-trans-hatred, in the State of Kansas? These disgusting lawmakers (and they ARE disgusting!) need to dial down their hatred and get some therapy.
I am going to forward this story to Garmin along with my cancellation of subscription. I would expand my boycott to other corporations located in Kansas but I do not deal in weapons manufacturing, surveillance technology or corporate meat products. Shameful!
Just as many states boycotted North Carolina after they drafted their anti-LGBTQ law several years ago (our state of VT was among the first), so our states should boycott Kansas, not allow anyone to go to conferences there, meetings, etc., and inform Kansas businesses why you are boycotting their products.
Please share if you see any organized boycotts. N.C. really paid attention when bands and the basketball tournaments started canceling. How do we support that?!?
Kansas, Wichita specifically, hosts the largest and most diverse quantity of airplane manufacturers in the world. Bombardier, Boeing, Spirit, Leerjet, etc all have large facilities and have sponsored Wichita State University's engineering department buildings.
Boycotting Kansas hosted businesses will not solve any of the issues we experience here, but I understand the sentiment and am grateful to any who stand with us as we navigate this atrocity.
I am black transman who did not receive a letter as of yet, but my MTF cousin did. In my opinion this is an attack specifically on transwomen.
You are absolutely correct.
Correct Response, Come and Get it.
They have zero legal right to demand your license. You paid for it, you passed all the requirements to obtain said license at the time. Until it is out of date they have zero legal right to do this. You cannot grandfather this in, Period.
Do Not Comply in Advance
Ignore the letter, get into a class action suite against the Kansas state government, sue, sue, sue
This is probably why they said it has to happen immediately - so people panic and comply quickly :(
I’m in Kansas. I’ve already reached out to the ACLU.
Wish us luck.
Crossing Fingers.....Sorry you are in such a horrible state. Don't come to Texas, just as bad and I am sure they will institute the same f not worse here if it's successful in your state.
I do wish you luck. I am in Texas and understand.
Agree! This is the way
Wow. Kansas tops the list of shithole states. Remains to be seen whether the good souls there -- and there must certainly be many -- raise hell about this.
Who wants to bet that the KS state police will have instructions to all be out on traffic patrol the day this fuckery goes into effect? Utterly monstrous.
It reveals something else, too- that the state was already keeping a list of trans people to be targeted. How else would they have known who to send the letters to? The plan was in place before the law was written. It won't end with IDs and bathrooms; the next step will be to put restrictions on jobs, housing, and gun ownership. Watch your backs.
And how long will it be before other red states follow suit?
That last line holy shit, you aren’t sorry otherwise you wouldn’t have passed the law
Just pointing out that it was the department of motor vehicles that wrote the letter. They didn't pass the law.
This was enacted by politicians using every trick to get it through without public comment, not DMV employees.
This legislation had gone beyond the pale - I truly cannot use the langue i want to describe the Government of this state
Kansas has crossed a dangerous line and is the most disgusting legislation
A new law now forces transgender residents to surrender their legally issued driver’s licenses and reissue them marked with their birth sex — or risk having their ID declared invalid.
Let that sink in.
The state is telling thousands of people that the identification they obtained lawfully — sometimes years ago — is no longer valid because of who they are.
This isn’t about “administration.
It isn’t about “accuracy.”
It’s about control and humiliation.
Forcing someone to carry ID that misgenders them doesn’t improve safety.
It increases the risk of harassment, job discrimination, denial of housing, and unnecessary police scrutiny.
It puts people in danger.
Government should not be in the business of targeting a small minority to score political points.
Invalidating IDs over gender identity is discriminatory.
It undermines dignity.
It weaponizes bureaucracy against vulnerable people.
Today it’s transgender Kansans.
Tomorrow it’s anyone out of political favor.
If you believe in equal protection under the law, this should alarm you — regardless of party.
We should be expanding freedom, not revoking it.
Kansas lawmakers need to reverse this harmful policy immediately.
It is time that corporations large and small along with business, and the good people of Kansas should be standing together against this these fanatical, racist, and bigoted legislators
Silence is complicity.
Isn't this technically a Human Rights Violation and possible War Crime ?
It can't be a war crime unless there is a war. You're probably thinking of crimes against humanity or genocide.
True, and it turns out a "Right to ID" does not exist explicitly either in the US Constitution or the UN Declaration on Human Rights. However, it is implied under Articles 6 & 15 of the UNDHR:
Article 6:
"Everyone has the right to recognition everywhere as a person before the law."
Article 15:
"Everyone has the right to a nationality.
No one shall be arbitrarily deprived of his nationality nor denied the right to change his nationality."
They might be effin' evil, but the Christo-fascists seem to have thought this through to at least a first approximation because there seems to be a good bit of legal wiggle-room in pulling somebody's DL.
It's totally a thing to have to walk 88-year-old Mom/Dad/Great Aunt Ida to turn in their DL after their last accident, but they at least get a non-driving ID in exchange. This doesn't sound like that, but is anybody checking ?
If you look at the big picture, this could be their plan for disenfranchising large amounts of trans people with sudden license suspensions+voter id laws
Sad, hateful, and stupid. I'm glad you had good news from the APA earlier. Thanks for being so thorough in your research.
F.U. to KS!
Another Republican effort to strip away our rights.
I fear that they are determined to make trans people effectively non-citizens.