As a business owner ALL my bathrooms are ‘gender’ neutral. Idaho can F off. This makes me very angry (clearly). I’m sorry for all those who must suffer through this. I stand with you always.
The depravity of this administration knows no ends. As a cishet woman, I don't give a rat's ass if a trans person is in the bathroom to pee. I AM however, very concerned about GOP/ other fascist men sneaking in there to voyeur at women on the pretense of keeping out trans women, because it seems like they are way too interested in everyone's genitals.
This is…there are no words! Not that women should be worried about being safe around trans men, but in this ridiculous world, these law makers and those who support this injustice never mention the very masculine, male passing trans men who will now be using the women’s bathroom! This inflicts trauma on both sides. Women will see men coming into “their” space and will be upset. Trans men, who have finally reached a level of comfort with themselves and walk through life as men will be forced to deal with their dysphoria AND negative and possibly abusive reactions. I am a trans man and happily use the men’s room without incident. Even before I transitioned I was met with stares, dirty looks and the occasional woman leaving the bathroom in disgust because I presented masculine. What a mess. Leave us alone! There are so many problems in the world that need our attention like saving our democracy! P.S. I will still use the men’s bathroom!
It's easier for trans men to blend in seamlessly than it is for trans women. And these laws specifically target trans women as they're always predicated around "protecting women and girls".
Agreed! Trans women have it much harder in general. I made this comment because the point is always made that trans women pose a threat to women and girls and that the absurdity of those comments compounds when you think of how traumatic it would be for women to see trans men in the bathroom. Will they say that straight men are now using the bathrooms by saying they are trans just so they can enter the space to prey on women. The whole debate is absurd.
Precisely. It's also attempting to solve a problem which DOES NOT ACTUALLY EXIST. Trans women are NOT preying on cis women in bathrooms. It's simply NOT HAPPENING. And yet the real and unaddressed problems with this are happening in the CHURCHES.
Is it really? I'm not being snarky, I'm really curious about the blending thing being easier for trans men. Maybe I have a highly attuned trans-dar based on a couple of personal qualities such as being an actor and having a trans spouse. Maybe it's just me...
Where is the business lobby? This bill places a vague and potentially crippling liability on any business open to the public. I don't expect trans people to be listened to, but the GOP is the party of business; are they really going to burden Idaho businesses with this excessive and capricious regulation?
Yeah, this is very reminiscent of the language used historically in the U.S. when discussing black people. The "we must protect our white women" argument was just an excuse for cruelty. The same people that pretended to care about honor were whipping and raping slaves Sunday night after church.
Or we ladies could all start wearing hoop skirts again to physically distance our fragile lil' selves from the hoi poloi. As many have said, I. Hate. This. Timeline.
The obvious response to this is for an enterprising Idaho lawyer, a cisgender plaintiff, and a cisgender accomplice of the opposite sex to go around to public restrooms and manufacture claims. $10k a pop collected from the gov entity plus attorneys fees quickly becomes a very lucrative racket.
Is that actually a legal option? Just wondering aloud. If it is, that would certainly up the outrage factor in the cis het community and maybe lead to gender neutral restrooms everywhere.
The time is past for All businesses to not have gender neutral bathrooms and just delete this issue. Most of the population of this country is not interested in making the lives of Trans-Individuals miserable. The unconscionable fact that the current regime has chosen to scapegoat the community while it hides the Epstein debacle behind the curtain is rather obvious. Let us hope that balloon pops in his face in the mid-terms. GOTV!
This is Republicans' idea of "small government." Hands off the Epstein class, but police the private actions of the outgroups they criminalize to maintain their straight, white 'Christian' hierarchy.
Protect our children and ladies? Are you kidding me? Go after the pedos in the WH and people in the e files if you want to protect children and ladies. This is a cover so they can pretend they’re protecting kids. Meanwhile, check their hard drives. I bet many of these people are abusers. Unbelievable. I’m so pissed off.
Oh yes it did. I am from NC and remember it well. Unfortunately, that was a different time. I feel like life for trans people is actually worse now than it was back then.
This bill seems ripe for abuse, in both directions. it doesn't seem to have any penalty to the person even entering the bathroom -- I can easily see someone just standing outside of the men's bathroom at a concert, taking a photo of every women that goes in (if you haven't been to a concert or late night event women going into the men's to skip the line to the women's has been commonplace since I've been alive) and then going to the courts to collect 100s of thousands of dollars from the establishment in reporting and litigating? sounds like we need to get busy!
As a business owner ALL my bathrooms are ‘gender’ neutral. Idaho can F off. This makes me very angry (clearly). I’m sorry for all those who must suffer through this. I stand with you always.
Thank you, Helen.
The depravity of this administration knows no ends. As a cishet woman, I don't give a rat's ass if a trans person is in the bathroom to pee. I AM however, very concerned about GOP/ other fascist men sneaking in there to voyeur at women on the pretense of keeping out trans women, because it seems like they are way too interested in everyone's genitals.
IKR? It's ludicrous.
How about policing pedophiles instead?!!
Oh, but that would mean outing the powerful. Can't have that. Have to persecute the "other" to keep the masses distracted and compliant. Barf.
This is what genocide looks like.
This is…there are no words! Not that women should be worried about being safe around trans men, but in this ridiculous world, these law makers and those who support this injustice never mention the very masculine, male passing trans men who will now be using the women’s bathroom! This inflicts trauma on both sides. Women will see men coming into “their” space and will be upset. Trans men, who have finally reached a level of comfort with themselves and walk through life as men will be forced to deal with their dysphoria AND negative and possibly abusive reactions. I am a trans man and happily use the men’s room without incident. Even before I transitioned I was met with stares, dirty looks and the occasional woman leaving the bathroom in disgust because I presented masculine. What a mess. Leave us alone! There are so many problems in the world that need our attention like saving our democracy! P.S. I will still use the men’s bathroom!
It's easier for trans men to blend in seamlessly than it is for trans women. And these laws specifically target trans women as they're always predicated around "protecting women and girls".
Agreed! Trans women have it much harder in general. I made this comment because the point is always made that trans women pose a threat to women and girls and that the absurdity of those comments compounds when you think of how traumatic it would be for women to see trans men in the bathroom. Will they say that straight men are now using the bathrooms by saying they are trans just so they can enter the space to prey on women. The whole debate is absurd.
Precisely. It's also attempting to solve a problem which DOES NOT ACTUALLY EXIST. Trans women are NOT preying on cis women in bathrooms. It's simply NOT HAPPENING. And yet the real and unaddressed problems with this are happening in the CHURCHES.
Exactly! Like a person is going to make a choice to be trans specifically to assault women in a bathroom.
Is it really? I'm not being snarky, I'm really curious about the blending thing being easier for trans men. Maybe I have a highly attuned trans-dar based on a couple of personal qualities such as being an actor and having a trans spouse. Maybe it's just me...
I'm six foot one. When I'm in women's spaces I stick out like a sore thumb! It actually causes me a lot of anxiety.
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Where is the business lobby? This bill places a vague and potentially crippling liability on any business open to the public. I don't expect trans people to be listened to, but the GOP is the party of business; are they really going to burden Idaho businesses with this excessive and capricious regulation?
"I think is a noble and right cause…"
...said the slave owners in support of the Civil War.
Oh, and PS:
"protect our children and our ladies.”
"Our ladies?" The 1950s called; they want their sexism back.
Yeah, this is very reminiscent of the language used historically in the U.S. when discussing black people. The "we must protect our white women" argument was just an excuse for cruelty. The same people that pretended to care about honor were whipping and raping slaves Sunday night after church.
Or we ladies could all start wearing hoop skirts again to physically distance our fragile lil' selves from the hoi poloi. As many have said, I. Hate. This. Timeline.
Meanwhile this party CONTINUES to protect ACTUAL PEDOPHILES.
The obvious response to this is for an enterprising Idaho lawyer, a cisgender plaintiff, and a cisgender accomplice of the opposite sex to go around to public restrooms and manufacture claims. $10k a pop collected from the gov entity plus attorneys fees quickly becomes a very lucrative racket.
As a business, the simple answer is close restroom access to the public period. 🤷🏼
Is that actually a legal option? Just wondering aloud. If it is, that would certainly up the outrage factor in the cis het community and maybe lead to gender neutral restrooms everywhere.
Like I said, let the lawsuits begin.
https://www.erininthemorning.com/p/trans-bathroom-ban-bills-now-expanding/comment/215343522
The time is past for All businesses to not have gender neutral bathrooms and just delete this issue. Most of the population of this country is not interested in making the lives of Trans-Individuals miserable. The unconscionable fact that the current regime has chosen to scapegoat the community while it hides the Epstein debacle behind the curtain is rather obvious. Let us hope that balloon pops in his face in the mid-terms. GOTV!
This is Republicans' idea of "small government." Hands off the Epstein class, but police the private actions of the outgroups they criminalize to maintain their straight, white 'Christian' hierarchy.
Protect our children and ladies? Are you kidding me? Go after the pedos in the WH and people in the e files if you want to protect children and ladies. This is a cover so they can pretend they’re protecting kids. Meanwhile, check their hard drives. I bet many of these people are abusers. Unbelievable. I’m so pissed off.
Perhaps it’s time to call for cancellation of any large conferences in Idaho (and Kansas)?
Worked to a degree in North Carolina.
Oh yes it did. I am from NC and remember it well. Unfortunately, that was a different time. I feel like life for trans people is actually worse now than it was back then.
This bill seems ripe for abuse, in both directions. it doesn't seem to have any penalty to the person even entering the bathroom -- I can easily see someone just standing outside of the men's bathroom at a concert, taking a photo of every women that goes in (if you haven't been to a concert or late night event women going into the men's to skip the line to the women's has been commonplace since I've been alive) and then going to the courts to collect 100s of thousands of dollars from the establishment in reporting and litigating? sounds like we need to get busy!