Incarcerated transgender people were a major topic of debate in the 2024 elections. Now, a judge ruling on a Florida policy shows how cruel abandoning trans people in prison can be.
It’s hard to give this post a “like” because the decision is so awful and dehumanizing. But I appreciate your reporting, Erin, to bring awareness and attention to this terrible ruling. Thank you.
The forced haircuts are an ugly (and likely deliberate) echo of past policies toward Native American children sent to white boarding schools to 'civilize' them. The article doesn't comment on Keohane's ethnicity, but it does seem likely that she has some non-white ancestry.
Yet another instance of racism combined with transphobia. It's also just plain old cruelty and dehumanization.
I was arrested in FL this year for a misdemeanor, I was first in the women's side of the jail then when I asked for my hormones and to see a doctor, they stripped me naked and threw me in medical. Then they threw me in solitary (Ad seg) - with the men and had me placed into mens clothes. The conditions are barbaric, lock down for 24 hours a day.... they moved me back to medical when all the guys would not stop screaming and hollering for 24 hours about a girl being in there with them. I had guards harass me, call me names, and humiliate me. I wouldn't wish that treatment on my worst enemy.
The mens clothing is a single unitard type fit while the women's clothes are two separate garments. So when I had to pee, I would have to unzip my top revealing my breasts and the male guards could and would just watch me. They have cameras in every cell. I broke, mentally, physically, emotionally. I just broke down. I was scared they were going to jump me at any second. I thought it would be so easy for them just to kill me and the headline would say "Crazy inmate tranny goes insane."
Whatever you do, if youre trans, get out of Florida now. I was in Jacksonville, it's like theyre on a whole other level or transphobic hate.
I would posit that their preferred route would be to incarcerate them in the general population of a men’s facility, then go home and jerk off about it.
Sorry, I figured you’re not stupid- you’re here, aren’t you?- plus you’re flying the rainbow and the trans flag. But the most ignominious part of this is that this isn’t even the result of anyone’s twisted religious belief; it’s just a fiction created by a disgusting human being to try and keep himself out of jail.
That's true . . . tho' if you figured I am not stupid your choice of words said otherwise.
As for the incoming President, I agree much of what he's doing is motivated by staying out of jail. HOWEVER, that does not speak to/about the people he is enabling. An entire population, a minority at that, is being placed at extreme risk because of his actions and those of the people he is enabling. This is no time to be flippant.
Unfortunately that is often the result for any transgender inmate regardless of any surgery. Transgender individuals are more likely victims of SA than other groups. I believe Erin has mention that in past articles about housing transgender women in men's facilities
To everyone commenting cynically . . . prisoners do have rights under the US and the various State Constitutions . . . generally where we fail in upholding those is in actually doing the work to see they're upheld. That's why it is important to support groups such as the California Coalition for Women Prisoners (https://womenprisoners.org), the ACLU, National Lawyers Guild (nlg.org), etc.
The plan is to house us with men until we are raped and killed, or get HIV and denied treatment until HIV becomes AIDS and we die.
By criminalizing being Trans, Republicans can potentially incarcerate all transgender and gender expansive people.
By denying us accurate ID, legal recognition, and equal rights, Republicans reverse legal transition.
By denying us medical care and reversing endocrinological and surgical treatment they can reverse medical transition.
By forcibly detransitioning incarcerated transgender people, they reverse social transition.
By use of brainwashing and coercive prayer circle indoctrination, psychotropic and psychedelic chemicals, and aversion training, they can attempt to reverse psychotherapeutic transition and force us to suicide, which is their true goal.
THIS is how the GOP intends to genocide all Transgender and gender expansive Americans by xmas 2025, 2026 at the latest.
Again, forcibly detransitioning, re-closeting, incarceration, and erasing us from all civil and human rights consideration, are combined tact's delivering a strategic goal; our eradication.
AND, by simply using Trump appointed judge protective cover, it can all be achieved by state level executive orders and state rules changes/policy updates, using EXISTING INFRASTRUCTURE DEVELOPED IN THE WAR ON DRUGS AND THE WAR ON BLACK AMERICANS, they can do it without having to develop an expensive new Gestapo, without expensive new concentration camps and forced labor prisons, without expensive new industrial crematoria!
They can just use our current industrialized incarceral complex, our current unaccountable police, anti-drag and other anti-Trans bans, bathroom bans, school bans, employment bans, and other public facing Trans bans. We'll all slip up at some point, get caught, get jailed, get detransitioned, and become re-closeted and go along with it if we want to live, or else we'll die.
They don't care which.
And the same Democrats who said "Trans lives matter!" in 2022 then said in 2024 "Trans who?"
No one is coming to save us.
First our Trans siblings in red states, then national Trans bans to eliminate those of us who fled to or live in blue states.
I appreciate the thoughtful reply. That does seem to be the course they’re taking. The question then becomes what will we do about it?
—Will we form groups to support incarcerated Transgender inmates?
—Will we actively pursue electing allies in the Mid-Term elections?
—Will we actively work to educate those around us as to the reality of Transgender existence? (note: I was recently chatting IRL with someone who had no idea about what has been going on with anti-transgender laws in other states and similar efforts in Congress (e.g. Nancy Mace)
All the sarcastic posts and venting online will accomplish very little. I can tell you that the flip reply I received earlier made me feel like shutting things down and giving up on social media to accomplish anything.
There is so much we can/could accomplish if we’d be more mindful of how we reply to one another . . . we need each other.
In my experience, nobody cares about the experiences of prison inmates. We are of an attitude in this society that anyone in prison deserves to suffer - and the more they suffer, the better. That's our cruel culture.
IMO, the more salient argument is about who deserves to go to prison and who does not. Our best chance is to keep trans people out of prison, because once they go in, nobody cares about their fate.
You should read about what v-coding is, and what tone policing is. Not trying to be sarcastic, but some of the things you are trying to get people to figure out are already well understood and documented.
"I was recently chatting IRL with someone who had no idea about what has been going on with anti-transgender laws in other states and similar efforts in Congress"
Where on Earth do they live they have not heard of it?
Here in Hawai'i for example . . . I have friends in California who only have a bare idea based on what they've seen in MSM. Those of us who live this stuff are too frequently guilty of assuming the information is widely understood, but what is disseminated in MSM is often minimal and often misleading. We cannot afford to assume people are aware of these things.
Hi - as someone who posted a comment that was probably construed as venting—I think for those of us who already feel that incarcerated populations routinely have their civil rights violated, the existence of a law/policy that would pretty clearly treat us (transwomen AMAB post-surgery) as male… have pretty strong fears about where this is going that made your question seem a little too naive (ie. Of course they would want to put us in male general population unless they are forced; and of course this leaves AMAB post-surgery transwomen in extreme danger)… so it struck folks like me as a bit patronizing.
Your call for ‘what we will do about it’ is much more helpful…. But I’m already doing all of the items you outlined and have been since coming out. This ruling/law changes nothing as far as those ideas are concerned.
What this ruling changes is that we need to spend extra effort and support building a trans* support pipeline to help people who need to seek refuge from those states that are increasingly unsafe to be trans* in—especially those who are already disadvantaged due to poverty, or discriminated against due to multiple factors such as ethnicity, etc.
I can see what you’re thinking and it is a reasonable question. The question I was asking has much more to do with “what is their intent?” Of course we know what they intend, but I am after specifics . . . not speculation from our side. I want to know specifically what they intend.
Speculation is not our friend, it often leads to people making rash, ill-informed decisions. It is also not terribly effective. Soooo . . . that’s what I am asking. I don’t deal in speculation.
I suspect they'll also allow a tiny number of trans people to get out of prison, after using coercive interrogation to make them say they regret transition. Then they'll say "Look! We have science and data to say that almost every trans person either dies or says they regret transition! Clearly this is evidence that trans is a mental illness and that everything we're putting them through is for their own good!
Assignment between male and female facilities was essentially discretionary, but in general, assignment based on identified gender would be extremely rare (which I read to mean "never," unless you know the right people). At the time, they said assignments would be based on "biological sex," but they refused to clarify to anyone (e.g. the press) what "biological sex" meant. (It could arguably mean one's postoperative anatomical sex.) They later defined this term in other deplorable administrative policies as meaning sex assigned at birth.
The revision of this document was the big red line in the sand that the Trump Admin. crossed, that told me I would no longer be safe in this country and should try to find an exit. It's then that my plans changed from finding a bluer place to live to finding a friendly foreign country to land in.
Sarah . . . Thank you for your informative reply! This is the sort of reply/comment I hope to see in many forums . . . People neeed to see the nitty gritty details much more than the sarcasm.
This is what nightmares are made of. Trans people in Florida can be arrested for using the restroom that aligns with their gender identity, being homeless like so many trans people are, or driving with an ID that matches their gender identity, among many fabricated reasons to put transgender people in jail. Then once they are in jail they will be subjected to so much. Trans women can only keep their bras if their breasts are big enough. They lose their underwear and are only allowed clothing that doesn't align with their gender identity. They are forced to have their heads shaved. Denied their HRT even though they have persistent and constant gender dysphoria. They are forced into detransition. Florida truly is not safe for any trans person to set foot in.
Many of us who have suffered at the hands of Christians expect no more from them than death or more suffering. Conversion therapy kills many of us and scars the rest of us. So many crimes committed in the name of Christ, in the name of America.
Considering project 2025 calling to put us all in prison, it’s hard not to imagine my loved ones as these prisoners. This is heartbreaking and terrifying. I know many women that would not survive the trauma of this dehumanizing treatment and the daily abuse that would result.
I think if we can eventually be imprisoned for being trans, there are many of us for whom detransition is impossible - because we've had hormones and surgery. So we will ALWAYS be noncompliant with "obscenity" laws and would essentially never be released from prison. At least that's my take.
I wouldn't survive because I'm over 40 and have some other medical issues that are totally treatable/curable but would absolutely kill me in a prison environment.
ROFL, Biden doing anything (even if he could) is laughable. He spent his whole presidency doing worse than nothing about literally everything. Stood off to the side while Republicans pushed for every regressive bigoted bill they could, barely even acknowledged anything was happening through his whole term. Didn't even bother promising to do anything about anti-trans BS besides the rare and brief hollow words of his "support". Biden is such a joke, and none of his response, or the complicit lack thereof, was the least bit surprising. In fact, I, and probably most folks, dreadfully expected this is exactly how he'd fair in our corner...i.e., absently 🙄
Subject: Concerns Regarding Policy on Transgender Inmates
Dear Judge Winsor
I hope this message finds you well. I am writing to express my concerns regarding the recent ruling on the Florida Department of Corrections' policy affecting transgender inmates. The policy's restrictions on gender-affirming care and its dehumanizing treatment of transgender individuals are deeply troubling.
I urge you to reconsider the impact of this policy on the dignity and well-being of transgender inmates. Ensuring access to appropriate medical care and respectful treatment is for upholding their rights and humanity.
Thank you for your attention to this.
Sincerely,
Rob Nelson London, Ontario, Canada.
I asked Copilot, an AI generator to compose the above letter for me. Additionally, I asked Copilot the name of the judge who made this ruling. I asked if the email addresses are published online for this judge and any other U.S. Federal District Court. Copilot says the email addresses of individual judges are not public. However, Copilot provided his name, the snail mail address, and a general email I hope this helps.
The "detransitioning" process they refer to will be using the "dead name and enforcing a dress code as the court sees fit, reflective of the standard clothing attire for the sex at birth.
Please correct me if my understanding is wrong. I am an ally of the transgender community and not a transgender individual.
Please accept my apologies for any grammatical errors.
I am 61-year-old Canadian, and I live in Canada, and I am learning about U.S. and policy language.
Thank you for your explanations and assistance as I climb this steep learning curve.
Your comments, both pro and con, are always welcome. encourage a healthy discussion, not an argument or debate. Thank you.
OMG! The cruelty of these people know no bounds! My heart breaks for this plaintiff and all who will be affected by this horrific decision. What can we do, Erin, to fight and resist MAGA and its fascist allies?!
The anti-transgender movement, from my perspective has three components. Any honest examination would conclude that the primary motivation is poltical. Targeting a small and already marginalized population, poorly known by most Americans, creates a perfect scapegoat and a diversion from failed policies. The second group are, frankly, transphobes. There are many possible reasons why people acquire such hate, from TERFS to perhaps a significant number of people, particularly men, who find considering gender and sex as anything but a hard and rigid division, an unsettling threat and something they are afraid to consider because of their insecurities. The final group are those who find transgender folk a threat for religious reasons. Often this group has elements of the two other groups intermingled in their beliefs, but here is the deal; church and state are separate, by law. A look under the hood of many of the anti-transgender decisions by some courts and one will find a religious belief, or more precisely, a religious prejudice, is the engine of those decisions. My sense is that for most of the American people see the campaign by Republicans against the transgender community is overwrought. Hopefully begin to subside. But a movement that relies on fear and hate will need to move on to other group or issue. The Right will use the tools of oppression they have honed to percecute the transgender community against others maginalized groups. Perhaps more communities, (for example, all women, who are essentially second-class citizens in nearly half the country now), will understand that the oppression directed at transgender children and adults can be turned on them as well. My hope is that they will see it in their own self interest to defend the transgender community. Illuminating the Right's strategy to target other communities is one way to build allies for trans-folk under threat from Trump and his allies.
I took some time to listen to an investigative podcast series by Imara Jones - "The Anti-Trans Hate Machine." I think you're right that a lot of the animus against us is politically driven, but the religious foundation of the anti-trans movement is much stronger than I initially recognized. There are some very, very deep pockets that are funding the movement to eradicate us for religious reasons.
Just as a side note, the entire mission of the Heritage Foundation is to secularize kristian policy goals - to find secular arguments for enacting kristian ideology. This is in recognition that religious arguments will not withstand judicial scrutiny (at least during normal times).
this very much shows the flaws of non-practitioners making decisions on medical concerns, even if they have "medical experts." I would certainly not trust an inexperienced individual operating on me or making the decision for me. In ethics and law, we are required to maintain patient autonomy with very few exceptions like suicide and homocide.
The federal judge ruling on nuance of medical literature is rife with flaws and absolutely fails at the scientific method and how data and evidence works. If we are going to have a court argue the virtues and nuance of deciding between ceftazidime and zosyn for the treatment of pseudomonas, it's time to get out of medicine.
Transgender treatment has every genetic, human development, embroylogic, physiologic, anatomical, biologic existence. Every pathway and research I have studied, every historical piece of evidence, every metabolic pathway I've reviewed has been and supports transgender medicine. What needs to evolve is our relationship with the data and reconstructing social paradigms.
It’s hard to give this post a “like” because the decision is so awful and dehumanizing. But I appreciate your reporting, Erin, to bring awareness and attention to this terrible ruling. Thank you.
Yes. I liked the "post", but what I like is Erin's reporting!
The forced haircuts are an ugly (and likely deliberate) echo of past policies toward Native American children sent to white boarding schools to 'civilize' them. The article doesn't comment on Keohane's ethnicity, but it does seem likely that she has some non-white ancestry.
Yet another instance of racism combined with transphobia. It's also just plain old cruelty and dehumanization.
I was arrested in FL this year for a misdemeanor, I was first in the women's side of the jail then when I asked for my hormones and to see a doctor, they stripped me naked and threw me in medical. Then they threw me in solitary (Ad seg) - with the men and had me placed into mens clothes. The conditions are barbaric, lock down for 24 hours a day.... they moved me back to medical when all the guys would not stop screaming and hollering for 24 hours about a girl being in there with them. I had guards harass me, call me names, and humiliate me. I wouldn't wish that treatment on my worst enemy.
I'm so sorry. Please tell your story wherever you go. More people need to hear it.
The mens clothing is a single unitard type fit while the women's clothes are two separate garments. So when I had to pee, I would have to unzip my top revealing my breasts and the male guards could and would just watch me. They have cameras in every cell. I broke, mentally, physically, emotionally. I just broke down. I was scared they were going to jump me at any second. I thought it would be so easy for them just to kill me and the headline would say "Crazy inmate tranny goes insane."
Whatever you do, if youre trans, get out of Florida now. I was in Jacksonville, it's like theyre on a whole other level or transphobic hate.
That is awful and utterly cruel. As someone else commented . . . the cruelty is the point .
That's my worst fear! I'm so sorry.
What do they plan to do with/about AMAB transgender inmates who've already had bottom surgery?
I would posit that their preferred route would be to incarcerate them in the general population of a men’s facility, then go home and jerk off about it.
You mean essentially put them in an environment that guarantees they'd be raped.
Absolutely. What do you think is going on? They’re not playing games. What are you going to do when they come for you? Because they are coming.
I'm not stupid, I was asking a genuine question . . . because if they do that, that would be the likely result.
Sorry, I figured you’re not stupid- you’re here, aren’t you?- plus you’re flying the rainbow and the trans flag. But the most ignominious part of this is that this isn’t even the result of anyone’s twisted religious belief; it’s just a fiction created by a disgusting human being to try and keep himself out of jail.
That's true . . . tho' if you figured I am not stupid your choice of words said otherwise.
As for the incoming President, I agree much of what he's doing is motivated by staying out of jail. HOWEVER, that does not speak to/about the people he is enabling. An entire population, a minority at that, is being placed at extreme risk because of his actions and those of the people he is enabling. This is no time to be flippant.
Unfortunately that is often the result for any transgender inmate regardless of any surgery. Transgender individuals are more likely victims of SA than other groups. I believe Erin has mention that in past articles about housing transgender women in men's facilities
To everyone commenting cynically . . . prisoners do have rights under the US and the various State Constitutions . . . generally where we fail in upholding those is in actually doing the work to see they're upheld. That's why it is important to support groups such as the California Coalition for Women Prisoners (https://womenprisoners.org), the ACLU, National Lawyers Guild (nlg.org), etc.
The plan is to house us with men until we are raped and killed, or get HIV and denied treatment until HIV becomes AIDS and we die.
By criminalizing being Trans, Republicans can potentially incarcerate all transgender and gender expansive people.
By denying us accurate ID, legal recognition, and equal rights, Republicans reverse legal transition.
By denying us medical care and reversing endocrinological and surgical treatment they can reverse medical transition.
By forcibly detransitioning incarcerated transgender people, they reverse social transition.
By use of brainwashing and coercive prayer circle indoctrination, psychotropic and psychedelic chemicals, and aversion training, they can attempt to reverse psychotherapeutic transition and force us to suicide, which is their true goal.
THIS is how the GOP intends to genocide all Transgender and gender expansive Americans by xmas 2025, 2026 at the latest.
Again, forcibly detransitioning, re-closeting, incarceration, and erasing us from all civil and human rights consideration, are combined tact's delivering a strategic goal; our eradication.
AND, by simply using Trump appointed judge protective cover, it can all be achieved by state level executive orders and state rules changes/policy updates, using EXISTING INFRASTRUCTURE DEVELOPED IN THE WAR ON DRUGS AND THE WAR ON BLACK AMERICANS, they can do it without having to develop an expensive new Gestapo, without expensive new concentration camps and forced labor prisons, without expensive new industrial crematoria!
They can just use our current industrialized incarceral complex, our current unaccountable police, anti-drag and other anti-Trans bans, bathroom bans, school bans, employment bans, and other public facing Trans bans. We'll all slip up at some point, get caught, get jailed, get detransitioned, and become re-closeted and go along with it if we want to live, or else we'll die.
They don't care which.
And the same Democrats who said "Trans lives matter!" in 2022 then said in 2024 "Trans who?"
No one is coming to save us.
First our Trans siblings in red states, then national Trans bans to eliminate those of us who fled to or live in blue states.
And that's how it's going to go down.
Watch Florida do it as a proving ground.
I appreciate the thoughtful reply. That does seem to be the course they’re taking. The question then becomes what will we do about it?
—Will we form groups to support incarcerated Transgender inmates?
—Will we actively pursue electing allies in the Mid-Term elections?
—Will we actively work to educate those around us as to the reality of Transgender existence? (note: I was recently chatting IRL with someone who had no idea about what has been going on with anti-transgender laws in other states and similar efforts in Congress (e.g. Nancy Mace)
All the sarcastic posts and venting online will accomplish very little. I can tell you that the flip reply I received earlier made me feel like shutting things down and giving up on social media to accomplish anything.
There is so much we can/could accomplish if we’d be more mindful of how we reply to one another . . . we need each other.
In my experience, nobody cares about the experiences of prison inmates. We are of an attitude in this society that anyone in prison deserves to suffer - and the more they suffer, the better. That's our cruel culture.
IMO, the more salient argument is about who deserves to go to prison and who does not. Our best chance is to keep trans people out of prison, because once they go in, nobody cares about their fate.
You should read about what v-coding is, and what tone policing is. Not trying to be sarcastic, but some of the things you are trying to get people to figure out are already well understood and documented.
Thanks. I searched "v-coding" and learned about it. It's eye-opening and scary AF, but it's essential information.
"I was recently chatting IRL with someone who had no idea about what has been going on with anti-transgender laws in other states and similar efforts in Congress"
Where on Earth do they live they have not heard of it?
Here in Hawai'i for example . . . I have friends in California who only have a bare idea based on what they've seen in MSM. Those of us who live this stuff are too frequently guilty of assuming the information is widely understood, but what is disseminated in MSM is often minimal and often misleading. We cannot afford to assume people are aware of these things.
Hi - as someone who posted a comment that was probably construed as venting—I think for those of us who already feel that incarcerated populations routinely have their civil rights violated, the existence of a law/policy that would pretty clearly treat us (transwomen AMAB post-surgery) as male… have pretty strong fears about where this is going that made your question seem a little too naive (ie. Of course they would want to put us in male general population unless they are forced; and of course this leaves AMAB post-surgery transwomen in extreme danger)… so it struck folks like me as a bit patronizing.
Your call for ‘what we will do about it’ is much more helpful…. But I’m already doing all of the items you outlined and have been since coming out. This ruling/law changes nothing as far as those ideas are concerned.
What this ruling changes is that we need to spend extra effort and support building a trans* support pipeline to help people who need to seek refuge from those states that are increasingly unsafe to be trans* in—especially those who are already disadvantaged due to poverty, or discriminated against due to multiple factors such as ethnicity, etc.
I can see what you’re thinking and it is a reasonable question. The question I was asking has much more to do with “what is their intent?” Of course we know what they intend, but I am after specifics . . . not speculation from our side. I want to know specifically what they intend.
Speculation is not our friend, it often leads to people making rash, ill-informed decisions. It is also not terribly effective. Soooo . . . that’s what I am asking. I don’t deal in speculation.
I suspect they'll also allow a tiny number of trans people to get out of prison, after using coercive interrogation to make them say they regret transition. Then they'll say "Look! We have science and data to say that almost every trans person either dies or says they regret transition! Clearly this is evidence that trans is a mental illness and that everything we're putting them through is for their own good!
Yikes. I hadn't thought of that particular vile eventuality but it absolutely fits the GOPMAGA MO. Manufacturing detransitioners via torture.
It's almost evil, medievally evil, with the Inquisition and the auto-da-fé creating Christians or corpses via torture and suffering
V-coding. It’s used to reward cooperating male prisoners, and to “soothe” the more violent inmates with someone to abuse without repercussions.
This was the Trump 1.0 revision to the Obama-era "Transgender Offender Manual" by the federal Bureau of Prisons:
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/4459297-BOP-Change-Order-Transgender-Offender-Manual-5/
Assignment between male and female facilities was essentially discretionary, but in general, assignment based on identified gender would be extremely rare (which I read to mean "never," unless you know the right people). At the time, they said assignments would be based on "biological sex," but they refused to clarify to anyone (e.g. the press) what "biological sex" meant. (It could arguably mean one's postoperative anatomical sex.) They later defined this term in other deplorable administrative policies as meaning sex assigned at birth.
The revision of this document was the big red line in the sand that the Trump Admin. crossed, that told me I would no longer be safe in this country and should try to find an exit. It's then that my plans changed from finding a bluer place to live to finding a friendly foreign country to land in.
Sarah . . . Thank you for your informative reply! This is the sort of reply/comment I hope to see in many forums . . . People neeed to see the nitty gritty details much more than the sarcasm.
Probably sell us as a service on the prison blackmarket.
Nothing good, I'm sure.
This is what nightmares are made of. Trans people in Florida can be arrested for using the restroom that aligns with their gender identity, being homeless like so many trans people are, or driving with an ID that matches their gender identity, among many fabricated reasons to put transgender people in jail. Then once they are in jail they will be subjected to so much. Trans women can only keep their bras if their breasts are big enough. They lose their underwear and are only allowed clothing that doesn't align with their gender identity. They are forced to have their heads shaved. Denied their HRT even though they have persistent and constant gender dysphoria. They are forced into detransition. Florida truly is not safe for any trans person to set foot in.
holy..... This is just cruel.
The cruelty is the point.
Shaving women's heads: That was a nazi thing. It seems we considered that cruel and dehumanizing many decades ago.
I don't even know what to say. I'm appalled. I can't believe that judges and politicians can be so cruel. And they call themselves Christians?
Yup. And Mike Johnson, the little choir boy, did everything he could to protect Matt Gaetz.
Many of us who have suffered at the hands of Christians expect no more from them than death or more suffering. Conversion therapy kills many of us and scars the rest of us. So many crimes committed in the name of Christ, in the name of America.
First I must weep ~ I'm inconsolable at the moment
Then I will get to work an write letters and send $$ to the ACLU
Considering project 2025 calling to put us all in prison, it’s hard not to imagine my loved ones as these prisoners. This is heartbreaking and terrifying. I know many women that would not survive the trauma of this dehumanizing treatment and the daily abuse that would result.
I know I wouldn't survive it. I'd kill myself.
I think if we can eventually be imprisoned for being trans, there are many of us for whom detransition is impossible - because we've had hormones and surgery. So we will ALWAYS be noncompliant with "obscenity" laws and would essentially never be released from prison. At least that's my take.
Yeah 😓
I wouldn't survive because I'm over 40 and have some other medical issues that are totally treatable/curable but would absolutely kill me in a prison environment.
This is cruel and unusual punishment. It’s literally torture
What is this world becoming!!! Biden should pardon all non-violent trans inmates in Florida.
That's not how pardons work. Federal pardons don't work on the state level.
ROFL, Biden doing anything (even if he could) is laughable. He spent his whole presidency doing worse than nothing about literally everything. Stood off to the side while Republicans pushed for every regressive bigoted bill they could, barely even acknowledged anything was happening through his whole term. Didn't even bother promising to do anything about anti-trans BS besides the rare and brief hollow words of his "support". Biden is such a joke, and none of his response, or the complicit lack thereof, was the least bit surprising. In fact, I, and probably most folks, dreadfully expected this is exactly how he'd fair in our corner...i.e., absently 🙄
Hello friends, here is the email sent to U.S. District Court, Judge Allen C Winsor.
Rob
flnd_winsor@fl.ourts.gov
Subject: Concerns Regarding Policy on Transgender Inmates
Dear Judge Winsor
I hope this message finds you well. I am writing to express my concerns regarding the recent ruling on the Florida Department of Corrections' policy affecting transgender inmates. The policy's restrictions on gender-affirming care and its dehumanizing treatment of transgender individuals are deeply troubling.
I urge you to reconsider the impact of this policy on the dignity and well-being of transgender inmates. Ensuring access to appropriate medical care and respectful treatment is for upholding their rights and humanity.
Thank you for your attention to this.
Sincerely,
Rob Nelson London, Ontario, Canada.
I asked Copilot, an AI generator to compose the above letter for me. Additionally, I asked Copilot the name of the judge who made this ruling. I asked if the email addresses are published online for this judge and any other U.S. Federal District Court. Copilot says the email addresses of individual judges are not public. However, Copilot provided his name, the snail mail address, and a general email I hope this helps.
The "detransitioning" process they refer to will be using the "dead name and enforcing a dress code as the court sees fit, reflective of the standard clothing attire for the sex at birth.
Please correct me if my understanding is wrong. I am an ally of the transgender community and not a transgender individual.
Please accept my apologies for any grammatical errors.
I am 61-year-old Canadian, and I live in Canada, and I am learning about U.S. and policy language.
Thank you for your explanations and assistance as I climb this steep learning curve.
Your comments, both pro and con, are always welcome. encourage a healthy discussion, not an argument or debate. Thank you.
The "snail mail" address:
U.S. District Court
Northern District of Florida
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OMG! The cruelty of these people know no bounds! My heart breaks for this plaintiff and all who will be affected by this horrific decision. What can we do, Erin, to fight and resist MAGA and its fascist allies?!
The anti-transgender movement, from my perspective has three components. Any honest examination would conclude that the primary motivation is poltical. Targeting a small and already marginalized population, poorly known by most Americans, creates a perfect scapegoat and a diversion from failed policies. The second group are, frankly, transphobes. There are many possible reasons why people acquire such hate, from TERFS to perhaps a significant number of people, particularly men, who find considering gender and sex as anything but a hard and rigid division, an unsettling threat and something they are afraid to consider because of their insecurities. The final group are those who find transgender folk a threat for religious reasons. Often this group has elements of the two other groups intermingled in their beliefs, but here is the deal; church and state are separate, by law. A look under the hood of many of the anti-transgender decisions by some courts and one will find a religious belief, or more precisely, a religious prejudice, is the engine of those decisions. My sense is that for most of the American people see the campaign by Republicans against the transgender community is overwrought. Hopefully begin to subside. But a movement that relies on fear and hate will need to move on to other group or issue. The Right will use the tools of oppression they have honed to percecute the transgender community against others maginalized groups. Perhaps more communities, (for example, all women, who are essentially second-class citizens in nearly half the country now), will understand that the oppression directed at transgender children and adults can be turned on them as well. My hope is that they will see it in their own self interest to defend the transgender community. Illuminating the Right's strategy to target other communities is one way to build allies for trans-folk under threat from Trump and his allies.
I took some time to listen to an investigative podcast series by Imara Jones - "The Anti-Trans Hate Machine." I think you're right that a lot of the animus against us is politically driven, but the religious foundation of the anti-trans movement is much stronger than I initially recognized. There are some very, very deep pockets that are funding the movement to eradicate us for religious reasons.
Just as a side note, the entire mission of the Heritage Foundation is to secularize kristian policy goals - to find secular arguments for enacting kristian ideology. This is in recognition that religious arguments will not withstand judicial scrutiny (at least during normal times).
this very much shows the flaws of non-practitioners making decisions on medical concerns, even if they have "medical experts." I would certainly not trust an inexperienced individual operating on me or making the decision for me. In ethics and law, we are required to maintain patient autonomy with very few exceptions like suicide and homocide.
The federal judge ruling on nuance of medical literature is rife with flaws and absolutely fails at the scientific method and how data and evidence works. If we are going to have a court argue the virtues and nuance of deciding between ceftazidime and zosyn for the treatment of pseudomonas, it's time to get out of medicine.
Transgender treatment has every genetic, human development, embroylogic, physiologic, anatomical, biologic existence. Every pathway and research I have studied, every historical piece of evidence, every metabolic pathway I've reviewed has been and supports transgender medicine. What needs to evolve is our relationship with the data and reconstructing social paradigms.
This decision is clearly terminally flawed.