It doesn’t have to materialize to have its desired effect: to terrorize transgender Americans, whether they are gun owners or not, and to scare the masses into complying in advance.
The GOPSCROTUS has ruled in Trump's favor 17 of 23 shadow docket rulings, most with little to no exposition or explanation. Statistically I mean, I think a gun ban WOULD survive legal challenge now that case law precedent, stare decisis, the constitution itself, and logic are no longer the basis for supreme court rulings.
After all, this is the administration that claims the 13th, 14th, 19th, 22nd, and 25th Amendments are unconstitutional.
There will be no legal battle in connection with it; if Stephen Miller decides it's risen to the top of his list of priorities, he will ask Pam Bondi to get on it. I don't think this is in serious doubt at this point.
I don't think you understand who would be mounting the legal battle. Miller can tell Bondi to do whatever he likes. And this will get pushed back. Depending on the jurisdiction involved they're actually attempting this even if they don't make it work we'll lose the GOP between definitely 1% and 6% at minimum in every jurisdiction they have. It would cause them catastrophic losses, tp the extent I almost hope they do try to throw us into that briar patch.
I'm not attempting to actually pick names in a serious manner; that's just my view of who has the most power in the WH at the moment. What counts is that "legal" no longer matters to the current regime. They will discuss how it's likely to play out in the press, and then act in such a way as to keep Fox and Friends as positive as possible, but that's the extent of it. That's what is happening with immigration, and even though I still think DJT has little more grasp of what transgender means than he did when he criticized transgender mice in the SOTU address, his crew understands it, and they have us right behind the immigrants.
In the final analysis, Republican voters will vote their party unless the economy is in terrible shape. The only "salvation" for the country is an economic disaster - unless the cyberpunks left over from Elon Musk, or other similar groups, succeed in widescale ballot alterations, which I give at least a 33% probability to.
My transition is a very spiritual thing, as it is for many trans people. I spent several year's deconstructing false ego before I was ready to face my truth. And at that point, I was helped along by another transwoman.
Back in the 70s, as a young teen I enjoyed hunting, mostly for small game. I have not owned a gun since. I'm very proficient at stick fighting. My preferred weapon is a defense umbrella, which I carry around with me almost always. I also carry pepper spray, and a knife. If I used the knife for self-defense, I wouldn't even open it. I'd hold it in my fist to make my fist bigger and stronger. I also have a compound wrist rocket, mostly for home defense.
However, since they began floating these rumors of banning transpeople from owning guns, I have been considering getting a gun. In most states, you do not have to register a black powder gun. Just saying.
I think the object of this rumors is two-fold. First, it is to open people's minds to the idea of suspending second amendment rights. For trans people, I think the most important part of this is that they are normalizing the idea that we are mentally ill. Trump has already signed an executive order that could be used to pick up and incarcerate the mentally ill. Now, if they normalize lies the idea that transpeople are mentally ill, they can justify disappearing us.
Other than the effect of prejudicing the general population against us, I think this is the biggest threat in these DOJ statements.
I think assigned male comics said something about this being a historical precursor to Kristallnact? that historical rhyme is unsettling to say the least
If they use that definition to declare us a danger to ourselves and/or others and thus unable to own a firearm, it's not long before they use that justification to imprison us using something like executive order 14321. (Anyone unfamiliar with that one should really read it in detail)
"...found an unsuspecting ally amidst the political turmoil: mainstream gun rights activists."
Hi, I'm sure you meant ~unsuspected~, but it kind of follows directly they would condemn this. They (the NRA) are single issue group for 150 years, the oldest civil rights group in the nation -- and this is their one issue. The others also only focus on the one issue.
There is a decent possibility this gun ban was never actually discussed at the DoJ, but, that they just wanted to triangulate Dem politicians in to condemning gun control.
Some time ago, I posted the fact that I never, ever, use the t****y word, any more than other slurs against a person or group. A commentator told me it wasn’t as upsetting as I thought. Nevertheless, I’ll never use it.
Like every pejorative ethnic stereotypical word, it’s up to the group to decide how these words are used by the majority. Trans people can use the word to disparage other trans people, or even as a term of endearment, but I can not.
How will you be able to distinguish friends from enemies, if every non-trans person has equal access to the word and other negative utterances?
Hopefully, through all my Substack posts and comments, the community knows where I stand, but I’m just one cis person out of many. It’s important to me to be an unshakable ally. I’m not even sure why — that’s such a fundamental part of my being. As far as I’m concerned, labels used by people outside the community are indicators of hate, and even worse when uttered by people in power.
There are horrific consequences to come. I’ll do all I can, but even news people need to ensure that we are warned in the most raw terms about official hate campaigns before they result in tragedy. Yes, we. If you are marched into the gas chamber, I’ll be by your side.
really a gun ban for one group of people when it's protected in the Constitution and we can't get any sane gun restrictions passed because of that. doubtful. it's a clear violation of the 2nd Amendment. the precedent would then mean you could restrict guns from anyone
This is an attempt to disarm all transgender people before they try to arrest, detain, torture and eventually exterminate everybody. Literally, no one is safe with this regime!
The NRA wins so rarely because they so very rarely try. They're scared to death of taking a case and losing it. Their nickname among people who shoot enthusiastically is "negotiate rights away".
In the event this was actually enacted, this does dissolve the "social contract". Relatively speaking, we could make the Warsaw Uprising look like a minor disagreement. Transgender people here like most Americans, are the most heavily armed population on the planet, and it's not even close -- and at that being on defensive . . .
What the hell did anyone expect Thus is just another way to these racists morning to persecute the trans community
We were warned about what was coming and the public did not believe WE MUST VOTE THESE PEOPLE OUT Of OFFICE AND STAND UP THE DEMOCRATS, INDEPENDENTS AND EVEN SOME REPUBLICANS MUST TAKE BACK OUR COU TRY GET THESE FUCKERS OUT!!!
It would make a lot more sense to ban cis men from owning guns.
this would never survive a legal battle but you're correct: it's just meant to create chaos and fear.
The GOPSCROTUS has ruled in Trump's favor 17 of 23 shadow docket rulings, most with little to no exposition or explanation. Statistically I mean, I think a gun ban WOULD survive legal challenge now that case law precedent, stare decisis, the constitution itself, and logic are no longer the basis for supreme court rulings.
After all, this is the administration that claims the 13th, 14th, 19th, 22nd, and 25th Amendments are unconstitutional.
I am so glad I'm not the only one calling it SCROTUS now.
There will be no legal battle in connection with it; if Stephen Miller decides it's risen to the top of his list of priorities, he will ask Pam Bondi to get on it. I don't think this is in serious doubt at this point.
https://jaynasheats.substack.com/p/resistance-is-not-futile
I don't think you understand who would be mounting the legal battle. Miller can tell Bondi to do whatever he likes. And this will get pushed back. Depending on the jurisdiction involved they're actually attempting this even if they don't make it work we'll lose the GOP between definitely 1% and 6% at minimum in every jurisdiction they have. It would cause them catastrophic losses, tp the extent I almost hope they do try to throw us into that briar patch.
I'm not attempting to actually pick names in a serious manner; that's just my view of who has the most power in the WH at the moment. What counts is that "legal" no longer matters to the current regime. They will discuss how it's likely to play out in the press, and then act in such a way as to keep Fox and Friends as positive as possible, but that's the extent of it. That's what is happening with immigration, and even though I still think DJT has little more grasp of what transgender means than he did when he criticized transgender mice in the SOTU address, his crew understands it, and they have us right behind the immigrants.
In the final analysis, Republican voters will vote their party unless the economy is in terrible shape. The only "salvation" for the country is an economic disaster - unless the cyberpunks left over from Elon Musk, or other similar groups, succeed in widescale ballot alterations, which I give at least a 33% probability to.
"Republican voters will vote their party unless the economy is in terrible shape."
I am 100% certain that is not entirely correct. Many would bolt if he made such a gun ban a priority.
I'm very pleased to see how essentially every major gun rights group immediately within 24 hours said no way. NRA, SAF, GOA, all of them.
My transition is a very spiritual thing, as it is for many trans people. I spent several year's deconstructing false ego before I was ready to face my truth. And at that point, I was helped along by another transwoman.
Back in the 70s, as a young teen I enjoyed hunting, mostly for small game. I have not owned a gun since. I'm very proficient at stick fighting. My preferred weapon is a defense umbrella, which I carry around with me almost always. I also carry pepper spray, and a knife. If I used the knife for self-defense, I wouldn't even open it. I'd hold it in my fist to make my fist bigger and stronger. I also have a compound wrist rocket, mostly for home defense.
However, since they began floating these rumors of banning transpeople from owning guns, I have been considering getting a gun. In most states, you do not have to register a black powder gun. Just saying.
I think the object of this rumors is two-fold. First, it is to open people's minds to the idea of suspending second amendment rights. For trans people, I think the most important part of this is that they are normalizing the idea that we are mentally ill. Trump has already signed an executive order that could be used to pick up and incarcerate the mentally ill. Now, if they normalize lies the idea that transpeople are mentally ill, they can justify disappearing us.
Other than the effect of prejudicing the general population against us, I think this is the biggest threat in these DOJ statements.
The ramifications of citizens knowing that the trans community will not have a gun on their persons is frightening.
Fuck them
I think assigned male comics said something about this being a historical precursor to Kristallnact? that historical rhyme is unsettling to say the least
Exactly what I was thinking when I saw it.
If they use that definition to declare us a danger to ourselves and/or others and thus unable to own a firearm, it's not long before they use that justification to imprison us using something like executive order 14321. (Anyone unfamiliar with that one should really read it in detail)
"...found an unsuspecting ally amidst the political turmoil: mainstream gun rights activists."
Hi, I'm sure you meant ~unsuspected~, but it kind of follows directly they would condemn this. They (the NRA) are single issue group for 150 years, the oldest civil rights group in the nation -- and this is their one issue. The others also only focus on the one issue.
There is a decent possibility this gun ban was never actually discussed at the DoJ, but, that they just wanted to triangulate Dem politicians in to condemning gun control.
Some time ago, I posted the fact that I never, ever, use the t****y word, any more than other slurs against a person or group. A commentator told me it wasn’t as upsetting as I thought. Nevertheless, I’ll never use it.
Like every pejorative ethnic stereotypical word, it’s up to the group to decide how these words are used by the majority. Trans people can use the word to disparage other trans people, or even as a term of endearment, but I can not.
How will you be able to distinguish friends from enemies, if every non-trans person has equal access to the word and other negative utterances?
Hopefully, through all my Substack posts and comments, the community knows where I stand, but I’m just one cis person out of many. It’s important to me to be an unshakable ally. I’m not even sure why — that’s such a fundamental part of my being. As far as I’m concerned, labels used by people outside the community are indicators of hate, and even worse when uttered by people in power.
There are horrific consequences to come. I’ll do all I can, but even news people need to ensure that we are warned in the most raw terms about official hate campaigns before they result in tragedy. Yes, we. If you are marched into the gas chamber, I’ll be by your side.
"I'll give you my gun when you pry it from my cold, dead hands". Never thought I’d be on the same side as the NRA again.
really a gun ban for one group of people when it's protected in the Constitution and we can't get any sane gun restrictions passed because of that. doubtful. it's a clear violation of the 2nd Amendment. the precedent would then mean you could restrict guns from anyone
This is an attempt to disarm all transgender people before they try to arrest, detain, torture and eventually exterminate everybody. Literally, no one is safe with this regime!
Rare NRA W???
The NRA wins so rarely because they so very rarely try. They're scared to death of taking a case and losing it. Their nickname among people who shoot enthusiastically is "negotiate rights away".
In the event this was actually enacted, this does dissolve the "social contract". Relatively speaking, we could make the Warsaw Uprising look like a minor disagreement. Transgender people here like most Americans, are the most heavily armed population on the planet, and it's not even close -- and at that being on defensive . . .
What the hell did anyone expect Thus is just another way to these racists morning to persecute the trans community
We were warned about what was coming and the public did not believe WE MUST VOTE THESE PEOPLE OUT Of OFFICE AND STAND UP THE DEMOCRATS, INDEPENDENTS AND EVEN SOME REPUBLICANS MUST TAKE BACK OUR COU TRY GET THESE FUCKERS OUT!!!
Check out Memoirs of a Southern Liberal on substack. She had a piece yesterday about some MAGA vs old school republican men who were talking about this. https://memoirsofasouthernliberal.substack.com/p/conversations-with-conservatives