The shutdown package must still get through the House of Representatives, and further fights on appropriations are expected by the new Jan 30 deadline.
The lack of anti-trans riders I suppose is “good” news, though it’s still overall an awful situation. Health care may now get a lot more expensive for a lot of people. The GOP was clearly willing to drive the economy and transportation haywire over the subsidy dispute, and not ever give in. That’s probably why the centrist Democrats caved - they saw the situation as hopeless, and their communities were getting hurt. And as for trans people, this little tidbit of “good” news seems like a scrap of rotting meat thrown in our direction, after the passport calamity last week.
Basically the spineless cowards gave in without actually getting anything tangible in return. Now we will have far less leverage to help us when the CR ends in January. I get all of my healthcare from the VA, so I may or may not have coverage for another year. That does nothing for the most vulnerable of us - those on Medicaid and Medicare. It also does nothing for the tens of millions of people that are going to lose coverage due to their premiums skyrocketing. Those turncoats need to be taken out in their next primary’s.
I'm still confused by this... So if this deal passes, trans people still lose all gender affirming care via Medicaid? This would seem to be the lede here, not a minor detail. Am I understanding this correctly? I think out health care is more important than being able to fly Pride flags,
No. The HHS bill has NOT been negotiated yet, so HHS is currently funded by a continuing resolution until January 30th. There is NO deal on HHS yet. That fight will come on Jan 30.
So would you say for those of us inclined to call, we shall keep telling our congresspeople not to conflate Trans health care with funding the government, and their cis-supermacy ideology should end now. Obviously change your words as you see fit :) Thank you, Erin!
This is so depressing. Nate Silver reported this morning:
"Then something changed — and I was getting ready to eat crow. Late last month, Trump’s numbers began to plummet, with his net approval rating falling from −7.5 on Oct. 17 to −13 three weeks later. "
Silver is a centrist that goes where the data goes which is sometimes toward bad conclusions in terms of rights. So this to me, indicates a shift in the populous against Trump (last Tues elections are further evidence) and that Democrats are just really stupid in their ability to strategically read the room.
Also, how dumb is it to just agree to a vote on subsidies? That gains nothing and we just traded food now for the loss of healthcare. Horrific.
I’m angry they caved, too. But I’m thinking the Dems were considering the thousands of federal workers, the air travel chaos , the 42 million Americans desperate for SNAP, and all the funding being pulled from ‘blue’ state projects. And while their cave is devastating for healthcare- they probably figure a NO vote in December puts Republicans in a bad position for midterms? I’m relieved there are no anti-trans riders, Senate-wise at least. But yeah, very angry this may have been our strongest chance to get those subsidies.
In 1919 I believe it was either former Prime Minister, Lloyd, George or Winston Churchill that said “This is a Rotten Peace!“ after the signing of the Armistice that ended World War I and it directly lead to World War II and now it seems with the Democrats caving to the MAGAT Republicans that our country is now going to fall completely to the Fascist Trump Regime! I don’t care what kind of stop gap Measure for the Budget they propose and I don’t care what kind of lies these Republicans and their Democrat turncoat friends spin. They are all Traitors, to the Constitution, to the American people, and to the entire world! Until the oligarchy and dark money are out of our government and politics forever, we will never ever have a proper functioning society in this country! It’s time to end this stupidity and bullshit that is the Trump Administration! 😡👿
I can understand why the few senators voted with the republicans, but I do not agree with them. I do not believe that the house will not try to push their belief's on the rest of us even if it means the government will not open. As for the future come January 30th I believe we will be right back in the same situation, because the republicans will not pass the continuation of the ACA subsidies but democrats must remember to stand firm not only on this subject but with the trans community. If another shutdown is necessary I say great, Stay out as long as necessary and DO NOT give in again.
Thank you for laying out the positive as well as what happens next & what to look out for going forward. Is there a list of those reps responsive for potential anti-trans riders?
We may have dodged a bullet here, but another one has been fired.
Today's unanimous SCOTUS decision to not review Obergefell, at the request of a Texas right winger, is an apparent victory for same sex marriage, but represents the SCOTUS majority's “concession” to the LGBTQ+ community, one that clears the way for further removing the legal protections and rights of trans people as such, and distinct from "the gays."
Today's passive victory for LGB people was a disaster for transgender citizens. (And they'll try to reverse Obergefell through other means.)
No, it wasn't. It was a win, period. Take them where you can get them.
The whole LGBTQ+ community is still in all kinds of danger. Our rights are still under threat in all kinds of ways. And that's even more true of transgender citizens.
But the decision not to consider a challenge to Obergefell isn't part of some larger plot. It's not a strategic retreat or a stepping stone to something even more nefarious. It's just a step that not even this court was willing to take. And if they didn't take it now, they won't try again until the political situation or the balance of the court changes significantly. We're probably safe (in this one very narrow respect) until the 2028 election at the very earliest.
I share your fear. SCROTUS seems to be doing this a lot. I think Roberts probably flips a coin before each case to determine how it's going to be decided.
No minor grounds there for relief . . . but in the specifics RE rescission and healthcare subsidy funding et al, the 7 Dems (+ 1 Ind) caved outright.
The lack of anti-trans riders I suppose is “good” news, though it’s still overall an awful situation. Health care may now get a lot more expensive for a lot of people. The GOP was clearly willing to drive the economy and transportation haywire over the subsidy dispute, and not ever give in. That’s probably why the centrist Democrats caved - they saw the situation as hopeless, and their communities were getting hurt. And as for trans people, this little tidbit of “good” news seems like a scrap of rotting meat thrown in our direction, after the passport calamity last week.
Basically the spineless cowards gave in without actually getting anything tangible in return. Now we will have far less leverage to help us when the CR ends in January. I get all of my healthcare from the VA, so I may or may not have coverage for another year. That does nothing for the most vulnerable of us - those on Medicaid and Medicare. It also does nothing for the tens of millions of people that are going to lose coverage due to their premiums skyrocketing. Those turncoats need to be taken out in their next primary’s.
I'm still confused by this... So if this deal passes, trans people still lose all gender affirming care via Medicaid? This would seem to be the lede here, not a minor detail. Am I understanding this correctly? I think out health care is more important than being able to fly Pride flags,
No. The HHS bill has NOT been negotiated yet, so HHS is currently funded by a continuing resolution until January 30th. There is NO deal on HHS yet. That fight will come on Jan 30.
So would you say for those of us inclined to call, we shall keep telling our congresspeople not to conflate Trans health care with funding the government, and their cis-supermacy ideology should end now. Obviously change your words as you see fit :) Thank you, Erin!
OK thank you for clarification!
This is so depressing. Nate Silver reported this morning:
"Then something changed — and I was getting ready to eat crow. Late last month, Trump’s numbers began to plummet, with his net approval rating falling from −7.5 on Oct. 17 to −13 three weeks later. "
Silver is a centrist that goes where the data goes which is sometimes toward bad conclusions in terms of rights. So this to me, indicates a shift in the populous against Trump (last Tues elections are further evidence) and that Democrats are just really stupid in their ability to strategically read the room.
Also, how dumb is it to just agree to a vote on subsidies? That gains nothing and we just traded food now for the loss of healthcare. Horrific.
I’m angry they caved, too. But I’m thinking the Dems were considering the thousands of federal workers, the air travel chaos , the 42 million Americans desperate for SNAP, and all the funding being pulled from ‘blue’ state projects. And while their cave is devastating for healthcare- they probably figure a NO vote in December puts Republicans in a bad position for midterms? I’m relieved there are no anti-trans riders, Senate-wise at least. But yeah, very angry this may have been our strongest chance to get those subsidies.
In 1919 I believe it was either former Prime Minister, Lloyd, George or Winston Churchill that said “This is a Rotten Peace!“ after the signing of the Armistice that ended World War I and it directly lead to World War II and now it seems with the Democrats caving to the MAGAT Republicans that our country is now going to fall completely to the Fascist Trump Regime! I don’t care what kind of stop gap Measure for the Budget they propose and I don’t care what kind of lies these Republicans and their Democrat turncoat friends spin. They are all Traitors, to the Constitution, to the American people, and to the entire world! Until the oligarchy and dark money are out of our government and politics forever, we will never ever have a proper functioning society in this country! It’s time to end this stupidity and bullshit that is the Trump Administration! 😡👿
I can understand why the few senators voted with the republicans, but I do not agree with them. I do not believe that the house will not try to push their belief's on the rest of us even if it means the government will not open. As for the future come January 30th I believe we will be right back in the same situation, because the republicans will not pass the continuation of the ACA subsidies but democrats must remember to stand firm not only on this subject but with the trans community. If another shutdown is necessary I say great, Stay out as long as necessary and DO NOT give in again.
Thank you for laying out the positive as well as what happens next & what to look out for going forward. Is there a list of those reps responsive for potential anti-trans riders?
At best they kicked the can 90 days down the road.
Nothing has been resolved
Your description is so perfect. I may be using that.
Thanks for clarifying while the smoke and dust clear [until January 30th].
Wow, these are dark times, when it becomes newsworthy that a bill is passed without the punching bag being punched.
We may have dodged a bullet here, but another one has been fired.
Today's unanimous SCOTUS decision to not review Obergefell, at the request of a Texas right winger, is an apparent victory for same sex marriage, but represents the SCOTUS majority's “concession” to the LGBTQ+ community, one that clears the way for further removing the legal protections and rights of trans people as such, and distinct from "the gays."
Today's passive victory for LGB people was a disaster for transgender citizens. (And they'll try to reverse Obergefell through other means.)
No, it wasn't. It was a win, period. Take them where you can get them.
The whole LGBTQ+ community is still in all kinds of danger. Our rights are still under threat in all kinds of ways. And that's even more true of transgender citizens.
But the decision not to consider a challenge to Obergefell isn't part of some larger plot. It's not a strategic retreat or a stepping stone to something even more nefarious. It's just a step that not even this court was willing to take. And if they didn't take it now, they won't try again until the political situation or the balance of the court changes significantly. We're probably safe (in this one very narrow respect) until the 2028 election at the very earliest.
I share your fear. SCROTUS seems to be doing this a lot. I think Roberts probably flips a coin before each case to determine how it's going to be decided.